Detailed Timeline.... July 21 - 25, 2005.... the start of the long road of the assassination of Aruba - Dutch "justice"

The Natalee Holloway Timeline

of her vanishment while in Aruba

detailing persons, places, organizations,
deliberate & accidental actions & in-actions,
events & supposed events, witnesses,
known suspects, outright lies,
corruptions, and crimes

7-21-05
On 7-21 RASMIJN found more duct tape in the same ocean beach front area location of north-central ARUBA as where he found another piece of hair-laden duct tape a few days ago. This duct tape, reportedly, had a red, paint-like substance on it.
On 7-21 SCARBOROUGH reported that there was many more hairs --possibly 12 or more-- than the 4 originally reported 7-17 and that the duct tape containing the hairs was not such a small piece but is a larger wadded up ball. “A wad of blonde hairs in and on a large wad of duct tape.” He also reported that the Murder Suspects may have to also provide blood and/or hair samples in the near future. He said the darker hairs may correspond to Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT and/or one of the Current Murder Suspects PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT and/or the KALPOE’s.
On 7-21 AL.com” reported:

Missing teen’s family sets reward
The family of a missing Mountain Brook teen announced today that they’re offering a $200,000 reward for her safe return. Natalee Holloway’s family is also offering a $100,000 reward for information that leads directly to her, according to Sunny Tillman, a family friend. Holloway, 18, disappeared May 30 while on a graduation trip to Aruba. The reward money previously stood at $175,000 for her safe return or $50,000 for her whereabouts. Tillman said the money has come from donors all over the United States. It is separate from funds raised for a trust to pay for expenses incurred during the search for Holloway, now in its seventh week. Hannah Wolfson

**NOTE** WOLFSON is a reporter in BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA for the “Birmingham News”


MSNBC reported on 7-21, “Natalee Holloway's mother announces a huge reward for information leading to her daughter. And, as the Aruban Police commissioner gets ready to retire and the prosecutor goes on vacation, the family hires a private Investigator.”
On 7-21 T. J. WARD stated to MSNBC, “I was here approximately three weeks ago (circa 7-1) on—after receiving information from Ms. Janssen, who advertised that they were looking for some new technology here in Aruba to help with the investigation. We have available to us a computer program called layered voice analysis that we offered to bring here on behalf of the family. After arriving here, we met with the Aruban government and law enforcement and demonstrated the layered voice analysis to them, which they were very excited with. And after they presented this information to Ms. Janssen, she said she was real reluctant to use the information, in efforts to—that she may spoil the investigation on behalf of the government.”
MSNBC reported that as of 7-21 there is a new ARUBAN Police lead Investigator on the case. The prior one retired on 7-21. (is this a reference to STRATEN, or, someone else?) MSNBC also reported that “the question has been, will this investigation take a new tack, possibly more aggressive? That remains to be seen. But we know from Police today that they plan to get a new statement from Joran van der Sloot in jail tomorrow. They say the last one they took from him was a couple of days ago (circa 7-19). And what's more, Police tell me today that they are doing all they can to get the Kalpoe brothers put back in jail. The appeals court said there just wasn't enough right now to have those boys in custody, but Police say they plan to interview them again in the next few days and that they want them back behind bars.” “At the same time this is going on, the family of Natalee Holloway has hired a P.I., private Investigator, got here two days ago, rather. And he brings with him something called layered voice stress analysis. Now, he says he ran an interview that was done with PvdS, Joran's father, through this technology, and he says the results were—quote—‘interesting.’ This technology is used by dozens of Police departments and several federal agencies in the state. It's supposed to tell you through someone's voice if they are holding something back, if they are lying. So, he plans to use that here. He says he is basically starting from square one, old-fashioned Police work. But he feels the suspects in this case are the right people to be looking at.”
On 7-21 Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT ’s lawyers, RICHIE DAVID KOCK, said the defense team still could ask for his release before his 60-day detention period is up. The Aruban prosecutor's office is expecting such a tactic, according to spokeswoman Mariaine Croes. Defense lawyers can appear before a judge part way through the detention to argue that there are no longer sufficient grounds to hold their client.
On 7-21 Aruban authorities were awaiting the results of DNA tests on samples taken from Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT , Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE , and Current Murder Suspect SATISH KALPOE. Investigators have not said whether there's other forensic evidence to compare with the DNA of the three men.
On 7-21 BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY stated to CBS, "I'm so grateful to the individual, the park ranger that made that discovery," she said, "How observant of him, because, you know, I think it could be a critical piece of evidence."
On 7-21 BETH spent part of the day distributing newly formatted reward posters bearing a picture of NATALEE and the raised reward amounts around the island. BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY stated that earlier in the day some 400 new reward posters were given to volunteers who had met at the “Wyndham Hotel” and all 400 were posted. The new reward posters also carry the numbers of two Aruban phone lines set up to handle anonymous tips, said Sunny Tillman, a family friend who helped organize the reward.
On 7-21 BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY stated "the investigation must proceed with a sense of urgency.” She also said she knew immediately on 5-30 when she received the phone call that “NATALEE had been ripped from her life.” She also said she has access to the F.B.I. 24/7, whenever she wants to contact them.
On 7-21 JUG TWITTY stated, “I hope they have more evidence than they’re telling us.” He also stated they have received tremendous support from the ARUBAN people, Mountain Brook, the USA, and the world.
On 7-21 Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT ’s lawyers, RICHIE DAVID KOCK, said the defense team still could ask for his release before his 60-day detention period is up. The Aruban prosecutor's office is expecting such a tactic, according to spokeswoman Mariaine Croes. Defense lawyers can appear before a judge part way through the detention to argue that there are no longer sufficient grounds to hold their client.
On 7-21 TITO LACLE reported to FOX News that more witnesses “from the beginning” have come forward than has been publicly announced. He said a Police source told him there are tips everyday, and that the Police can see the light at the end of the tunnel for the investigation, but the light is still far away. TITO LACLE re-emphasized that Current Murder Suspect PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT could be re-arrested along with other persons.
On 7-21 LeJUEZ told FOX News that if the duct tape hairs are from NATALEE, and if there is a fingerprint and/or hair of any of the Murder Suspects also found on the duct tape, it would be sufficient to convict a suspect(s) of murder.
On 7-21 LeJUEZ stated that there is human trafficking that occurs between ARUBA and SOUTH AMERICA, primarily, initially to VENEZELA, but he said “it is normally willingly by the person, such as prostitution.” LeJUEZ stated he cannot understand how someone could be taken alive from ARUBA against their will (duhhhh…. how about giving them a drug to make them sleep during the short trip!)
On 7-21 CNNHN reported:

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, breaking news. Twelve-inch blonde hairs attached to duct tape discovered by a park ranger on an Aruban beach just arrived in crime labs in both the Netherlands and FBI headquarters in Quantico, Virginia. DNA testing tonight under way. DNA also under the microscope taken from the three men last seen with 18-year-old Natalee Holloway the night Natalee disappeared from her high school senior class trip. It is day 53 since the blonde Alabama beauty and star student vanished into thin air. Tonight, the clock is ticking. It's just a matter of hours until we find out if this is Natalee's hair attached to duct tape.
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But first, we're going live to Aruba for breaking news. It is day 53 of the Natalee Holloway missing girl mystery. Tonight, just arriving in crime labs in both the Hague, Netherlands, and FBI headquarters in Quantico, Virginia, blonde hair discovered on thick duct tape on the Aruba beach. Tonight, we want to learn, is this Natalee's hair? And double crime labs also testing DNA samples from three Aruban men last seen with Natalee the night she vanished. It was the last night of her high school senior trip. One of them, judge's son Joran van der Sloot , still behind bars. The Kalpoe brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, walk free tonight, released from jail by an Aruban judge. Tonight, in Birmingham, Alabama, Natalee's stepfather, Jug Twitty is with us; in Aruba, T.J. Ward. He's a private Investigator for the Twittys; in New York, defense attorney Richard Herman; in San Francisco, defense attorney Daniel Horowitz; in New York, psychiatrist Dr. Lisa Weinstock (ph). But first, let's go to WBMA reporter Anastasiya Bolton. Welcome, Anastasiya. Bring us up-to-date. ANASTASIYA BOLTON, WBMA-REPORTER: Well, the FBI lab in Quantico, Virginia, has just started testing those DNA sample, that piece of hair and a piece of duct tape that was found in Aruba on Sunday. The Netherlands forensic institute got their piece of evidence last night. They're supposed to test it in the next couple of days. We expect results in the next 48 to 72 hours. So we may learn, Nancy, as soon as next week, if that tape is, indeed, Natalee's. Also, as you mentioned, Karin Janssen, the prosecutor in Aruba, has asked for the three men last seen with Natalee to be tested for DNA. She had actually asked the judge to rule on that on July 13th. The judge in Aruba did not allow the DNA testing until July 19th. Actually, an interesting point, July 19th is a Tuesday. The DNA samples we're talking about, the hair and the duct tape, was found the Sunday before. So the question remains, was the judge influenced by that evidence found on Sunday or he did rule not regarding that evidence? GRACE: I want to go straight down to Jug Twitty, this is Natalee's stepfather joining us. Jug, what do you think about the DNA testing of the duct tape? GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Nancy, I don't know. I hope it turns up something. The DNA, as far as taking the saliva or whatever from the boys -- you know, I think back to when Beth had to go and apologize for her remarks. And just think, Nancy, what would have happened if the boys would have left the island. And they now needed to take these DNA samples or whatever. They wouldn't have been there. GRACE: Jug, don't remind me of your wife having to make a formal public apology to the people of Aruba after she just told the truth, that they were bungling the investigation from the get-go. And if she hadn't spoken out, you're right. Those DNA samples may never have been possible on the Kalpoe brothers. You're dead right. And to think of her at a time like this, having to go on air, and eat a dirt sandwich, and apologize for what? But, you know what, she did it. She did it because she wants to find Natalee. I want to go to Daniel Horowitz. Daniel, you and I have both handled a lot of cases involving around DNA, deoxyribonucleic acid. A week? They don't need a week to test DNA. DANIEL HOROWITZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, Nancy, I think that the length of the test may relate to the duct tape. You're right. They can take the hair, look for mitochondrial mother- centered DNA quickly, maybe in about three or four days. But that duct tape, that can have the fingerprints or rather the skin from the person who handled it. They have to very carefully extract it and then compare it to these three suspects. That could break the case. GRACE: I want to go to private Investigator T.J. Ward, hired by the Twitty families. T.J., what is it that you plan to do in Aruba that hasn't been done yet? T.J. WARD, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Thank you, Nancy. I'm here on behalf of the Twittys. And we're going to open our own private investigation. I met with Beth last night and this morning, and have gathered a great deal of information of names and individuals that may be directly or indirectly involved in this. And I know that there's a reward has just come out, and I'm going to assist the Twittys and probably going through calls and information that we may receive from this information. And ironically, having a layered voice analysis here a few weeks ago, which was offered to the government and wasn't used, we have the equipment here. And if it's necessary, with these witnesses or people that may have further information, I may be able to use that to extract who may be telling the truth, or who may not be telling the truth, or who may be an exaggerating or just out there pondering for reward money. GRACE: Take a listen to this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: You know, Nancy, as each day passes, I really just become even more and more determined. And I know with my faith and trust in God, I know he is supporting me, and everyone in the United States and, of course you know, Natalee's community of Mountain Brook, Alabama. You know, that is what is carrying me through this. And each day, I'm able to do it and will be able do it. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: Here on the set with me, a veteran trial lawyer. Now, he's on the other side of the fence, Richard Herman, a defense lawyer. Richard, I think we do have one thing in common. When I'm getting ready for a murder trial, I work day and night. I fall asleep on the bed with my files in my hands, OK? Would you take a vacation when you're in the middle of the fight for your life? RICHARD HERMAN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, this whole investigation, the prosecution, it is an absolute abomination. GRACE: Vacation. HERMAN: Vacation. GRACE: Would you take a vacation while you're in the middle of the case? HERMAN: Absolutely not. GRACE: I'm glad you said that. I'm glad we agree on one thing. I'm going to hold you to that.Jug Twitty, what do you make of the prosecutor in this case, Karin Janssen, going on vacation? She's gone this week. She's not working on Natalee's case. She's not writing up warrants, or search warrants, arrest warrants, warrants for more DNA. No. She's probably getting a tan somewhere on vacation. I wonder if she took her sunscreen. TWITTY: Nancy, I hope you're kidding me when you tell me that, because...GRACE: I am not. I am not. My producer, Rosie, just told me in my ear just then. Rosie, am I right? Give me the control room cam. Rosie, are you there? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, you're right. GRACE: OK. We're right, Jug. We just found out the prosecutor is on vacation. TWITTY: Well, you know, I was kind of optimistic about having van der Straten being changed out and having a new person there. Of course, the person I had probably the most hope and trust in would be Karin Janssen. And if what you're telling me is true, I just -- I still can't believe that, absolutely no way. GRACE: Well, we've got 57 minutes to find out if we're right or wrong, Jug. I hope you're right, and that Rosie's wrong.No offense, Rosie. Here in the studio with me, Dr. Lisa Weinstock (ph). Lisa, you and I, all of us on this panel, have canceled vacation, have canceled plans, have come into work on weekends. I remember trying a case through the Thanksgiving holiday, all right? She's on vacation. I'm disgusted. DR. LISA WEINSTOCK, PSYCHIATRIST (ph): These ups, these downs. It's a real emotional roller coaster. And to hear that the prosecution isn't doing everything they possibly can to find more evidence and to find out what's happened has got to be devastating for them. GRACE: Well, Jug, one good thing is the DNA is being tested right now, whether the prosecutor is gone on vacation to the French Riviera or not. Nothing is going to stop that testing, at least at Quantico, Virginia, at the FBI. I don't know about the Hague in Netherlands, how they do business. But I know one thing, Jug, you can rest easy that they're making an accurate analysis. TWITTY: Oh, yes, I agree. And I think that's great. We just need some help, and we need to speed this process up. It seems like every day it's starting to speed up a little bit. And with a new investigative team, I've got T.J. down there. And I know he's going to dig. He's going to dig into some things that nobody else will give me answers to, so... GRACE: Yes, he will. I know T.J. Ward from his days as an Atlanta detective. And, Jug, as we go to break, I just want to break some more news for you. I don't know about if you know about this, but -- is it Song Airline, Ellie?Song Airline, which is a part of Delta Airlines, has just announced nonstop flights weekly Saturdays from JFK to Aruba. Just announced it today, but I can tell you this much, Jug, I'm not going to be on that flight. I'm not on my way to Aruba if they can't even handle this case correctly. We'll all be right back. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) DANIEL HOROWITZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: We've got three kids here that's holding up everyone's lives, including the people here in Aruba. I ran across a lady that asked me, are you searching for Natalee? I said, "Well, yes, are you searching for Natalee?" And she said yes. And I had a, you know, a conversation with her. And she was from around here. And she indicated that a lot of her friends and family members were just like us, you know, wanting to find Natalee. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: Breaking news tonight, out of the Aruba investigation into the missing American girl, 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, not just a beauty, but a star student and just as beautiful on the inside as on the outside. DNA has made its way -- it was hand-carried to Quantico, Virginia, crime lab, the FBI crime lab, and the Hague, Netherlands. I want to also tell you tonight, the reward, $200,000 reward for Natalee's safe return, $100,000 reward for information on her whereabouts. Her mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, had a press announcement regarding that just this morning. I want to quickly go to Anastasiya Bolton, WBMA TV reporter. Anastasiya, what else can you tell us as of tonight? BOLTON: Well, as of tonight, I can tell you the community support, despite that it's been more than 50 days since Natalee has been missing, has always been strong and continues to be strong. I get asked daily what the progress of the investigation is and if we're ever going to find Natalee. There's been a wall of hope and prayer erected at the church here locally in Mountain Brook. And the wall of prayer originally was only two panels, two building panels. Now it is up to four panels. And it's covered with prayers and well wishes. We had a concert here last week of "American Idol." I've been told they signed the fourth panel of this wall, wishing and hoping for Natalee's safe return. I've also spoken to family members, to Marcia Twitty, the aunt of Natalee Holloway. She says of all of the prayers written on the wall, of course, every one of them touches her deeply, there is one -- she calls them little people, the children, little ones who cannot get high up on the wall and reach. She says she reads down below by the bottom of the wall. The thing that struck her the most is a saying from a 4-year-old, saying, "Natalee, please come home. Your mommy is crying." GRACE: People all over the world reaching out to try and help not only Natalee, but her family. You're right, Anastasiya. But to me, the most important thing that can be done now is to get that DNA result. Anastasiya, we've heard conflicting reports about how much hair was on the duct tape. First, we heard four strands, that there were blonde hairs, that there were darker hairs, that the blonde hairs were 12 inches long. Jug Twitty told me that Natalee's hair was about 12 inches long. How much hair was on that duct tape, Anastasiya? BOLTON: I understand that it was enough tape to send to the Netherlands and to the FBI. Of course, that's the most important thing, so that both labs can do their testing. And, of course, hopefully later compare notes to get some answers. GRACE: Jug, we just got confirmation from the prosecutor's office there in Aruba. Karin Janssen is on vacation. She is in Holland, and she's not coming back until August the 3rd, August the 3rd. Let's see, what's today? Nobody knows? The 21st? OK. That's quite a vacation, Jug. TWITTY: Yes, Nancy. I just absolutely cannot believe that. I mean, I'll talk to Beth about it to see, or my attorney down there and see -- I mean, nobody has told me that. And if that's the case, I mean, the world ought to be, you know, outraged at that. GRACE: Well, I'm outraged. I'm outraged. And I'm also outraged that Delta is now -- takes this time to announce their new nonstop flights to Aruba. But also, one good side of the double-edged sword regarding the prosecutor's office, Jug, is that they got rid of van der Straten, that lead Investigator. Now, that was a happy day for me. Prosecutors all over the country were dancing up and down the halls when van der Straten left. Explain. TWITTY: Well, first of all, let me say -- talk about the Delta thing for a second, because, you know, US Air has been so nice to my family and to my friends. And they've offered special flight rates. We asked Delta, and Delta would do nothing, so that settles that, but... GRACE: And Delta is from your neck of the woods. You're in Alabama. They're hub is Atlanta. TWITTY: They offered to give me a bereavement flight down there for the family only. But, you know, USAir stepped up, David Bonham (ph) sure helped in that, too. But it's awesome. And I appreciate -- you know, Nancy Lash (ph) has been awesome. But anyway, on the investigation, yes. I'm glad we got a new team in there. I want them to go back from the beginning. I want the statements from the two uniformed officers that were there with me that night that spent two hours with us, at least their written report that they had that night. And I want them to dig into Paulus van der Sloot . And he's involved in this. And I want him to dig and dig and find out more information. GRACE: Karin Janssen, Nancy Grace, former prosecutor. I'm with Headline News. Are you getting a tan in Holland? Because you're needed back at work right now. Jug, I don't recall ever in the preparation of a case taking a vacation, much less a two-weeker. I don't think I've ever even had a two- week vacation. Jug, I'm stunned. TWITTY: Absolutely. I mean, I've never taken off more than a week at a time in my life in any of my jobs that I've had. And first of all, for us to have a Police chief that's retired and just drop the case totally, I guess now -- first I heard he was going to stay on. Now he's going to go to Holland.And now you're telling me my prosecutor is going to leave for two weeks, I just don't know who's running the show. And I mean, I can't say until I find out for sure, Nancy. Because it's hard for me to believe that. GRACE: Before I go break, I want to go to WBMA-TV reporter Anastasiya Bolton. Anastasiya, do we know what evidence the authorities are going to compare the three suspects' DNA to? BOLTON: Nancy, it's hard to say. Since the beginning of this investigation, authorities in Aruba have been very secretive about what they have and what they may not have. We know for a fact that the evidence collected at the van der Sloot s' home and in the car that Natalee was last seen at is no help to them in this case. So we hope that they do have something that they're not telling us about that they can indeed compare to the DNA found on Sunday. GRACE: Wait. Anastasiya, are you seriously suggesting that the Aruban authorities are keeping a secret? BOLTON: I'm not suggesting they're keeping a secret. I'm saying they've been tight-lipped or secretive. Their law does not entitle them, or does not allow them, to speak to the media and speak to the public openly about the case as, of course, it does in the United States. So they're not telling us what, if anything, they have, as far as evidence is concerned. GRACE: Anastasiya Bolton, I pray you are correct. Very quickly to "Trial Tracking." Just a few hours ago, two America West jumbo jet pilots, Thomas Cloyd, Christopher Hughes, convicted of operating a jumbo jetliner while drinking, sentenced in a Florida courtroom. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sentencing you to two-and-a-half years in state prison. Frankly, sir, I have no sympathy. (END VIDEO CLIP)(COMMERCIAL BREAK) GRACE: $200,000 offered for Natalee's safe return; $100,000 now offered for her whereabouts. Her mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, making that announcement today in Aruba. Welcome back, everybody. I'm Nancy Grace. I want to quickly go back to T.J. Ward, the private Investigator just hired by the Twitty family. T.J., be honest. You've handled, I mean, I couldn't begin to count how many Police investigations. Give me a grade on how the Aruban authorities are handling this investigation. WARD: Well, it's probably around a D or an F, because, from the beginning of this investigation, there should have been evidence taken by the Police. There should have been search warrants issued. And certain information, there should have been recovered. There may have been a roll of duct tape recovered, and we might have already had the answer, if they would have done what they were supposed to do in the course of a regular Police investigation. There's people that should have been interviewed that weren't. There are potential witnesses that were with the Twittys on the night that they arrived that weren't even interviewed. There's people that were with her in the bar that weren't even interviewed that we know of. So now it's time to pick up the pieces. And, you know, I'm not trying to hamper their investigation, but I believe that I can work parallel to them and probably give them some additional information to hopefully get them motivated. GRACE: You know, to Daniel Horowitz, he is right. I mean, what Investigator in their right mind would not have already seized -- and I know I'm beating a dead horse here -- would not have already seized the car Natalee had been in. They waited 11 full days to seize the car, to process the car for forensics. They did not search the homes of the Kalpoe brothers, of the judge's son, the judge's office. I want to know tonight, why aren't they taking the judge's DNA, Daniel Horowitz? He was once brought in. HOROWITZ: They should have, Nancy. I mean, you don't know how she died or where she died, so you collect everything right at the get-go. I mean, for one thing, you know, people don't die without a struggle when they're young and healthy like she was. It could have been blood on van der Sloot 's clothing that now is lost forever. Nancy, I think that the U.S. Virgin Islands is a place to vacation. No more vacations in Aruba until they take us, the U.S. Investigators, and put them in charge of this investigation and take a back seat where they belong. GRACE: Jug Twitty, do you think there's any way, with this enhanced reward, that you are largely responsible for -- Jug, is there any way that this could crack open the trio of the Kalpoe brothers and Joran van der Sloot ? TWITTY: Well, I hope so, Nancy. Because, I mean, we increased the whereabouts part of it to $100,000. And if -- whatever it takes. You know, somebody is going to talk down there. And I hope T.J. can get down there, as I say, and make his magic work, because I can't get anybody to communicate with me, from the Police and even the FBI. I know they worked hard, but I think they feel like they can't tell me, worried about what the Aruban Police are going to say if they do tell me. So T.J.'s kind of neutral there. He can work along with all of them. But he can communicate with me. GRACE: Jug, we've got to go to break. But there's something I don't understand about Aruban law. Is it true that they can't separate the suspects, in other words, give the Kalpoe brothers lenient treatment in exchange for testimony or a statement against Joran van der Sloot ? TWITTY: I understand that they cannot do that. I understand that, if you're talking about giving them a break as far as if they'll give some information, they say no. GRACE: Is that correct, Richard Herman? HERMAN: That's absolutely correct. They cannot do that, Nancy. GRACE: OK, everybody, quick break. We are live in Aruba. Also with us is Natalee Holloway's stepfather, Jug Twitty. Stay with us.



On 7-21 MSNBC reported:

MONICA CROWLEY, GUEST HOST: A very big show tonight, from Aruba to London, and all across SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CROWLEY (voice-over): Natalee Holloway's mother announces a huge reward for information leading to her daughter. And, as the Aruban police commissioner gets ready to retire and the prosecutor goes on vacation, the family hires a private investigator. We will ask him what he's hoping to find. We've got all the day's developments in the search for Natalee Holloway.
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CROWLEY: Welcome to SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY. I'm Monica Crowley, in tonight for Joe.
Well, we have got some surprising new developments in the case of missing honeymooner George Smith. And we'll have that for you in just a moment.
But, first, our top story, the search for Natalee. As authorities await DNA test results to come back, Natalee Holloway's family announces a big reward for any information that might lead to her whereabouts. In just a moment, we will speak with a member of her family, as well as a private investigator they have hired.
But, first, we go live to Aruba and NBC's Michelle Kosinski, who has all the latest developments.
Hi, Michelle.
MICHELLE KOSINSKI, NBC CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Monica.
And this is the sort of thing we have seen now with both of Natalee's parents. They are at the point where they are willing to try anything they can think of, any idea they can come up with to get to the bottom of what happened to their missing daughter. And today, Beth Holloway Twitty announced a much, much bigger reward than what's already been out there.
Also with it comes a tip line that she helped set up with local authorities. The police here in Aruba have already had a tip line. They told me today they are still getting calls on that. But this new one really is in conjunction with the reward. Natalee's mother wanted to emphasize that anybody who calls in will remain anonymous. She wants this to draw people out and draw out some information.
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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Investigating authorities, together with the Holloway-Twitty family, in an effort to get the very much needed information on the whereabouts of Natalee and to further help the investigate of this case, are now offering substantial cash rewards to the person that provides the right information.
There will be a cash reward in the amount of United States dollars $200,000 for anyone who provides information that leads to the safe return of Natalee. For information given that leads to the whereabouts of Natalee Holloway will receive a cash amount of United States dollars $100,000, shall be awarded to that person who provides that information.
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KOSINSKI: Today, we saw groups of people, some of them tourists volunteering their vacation time, to go around the island and hang up posters announcing that reward, many of them very touched. Tourists know the situation here. And they want to do what they can help, too.
And, also, we mentioned that police here do have a tip line. But police in Aruba just don't use rewards. It's not part of the way they do things here. So, another hope with this is that the unusual nature of offering a reward, the size of it, and the fact it's something that doesn't happen here all the time will help the situation, will help people come forward.
And this is going on while the family and investigators are awaiting test results on some hairs that were found on the island, on some duct tape. And we know that prosecutors want to compare those results with DNA samples that were compelled earlier in the week from all three suspects in this case—back to you, Monica.
CROWLEY: Michelle, quick question for you. The DNA samples were split between the FBI headquarters in the United States, as well as in the Netherlands, for analysis. When might—might we expect some results?
KOSINSKI: Well, it took a little more time than some people were expecting. Ones those swabs were done two days ago, we expected them to go right off to the labs. And when the tape was found several days ago, we expected that to go right off, too, but that wasn't the case.
Each side, both the FBI and Dutch authorities, wanted someone to hand-deliver it to the labs, one in Holland and one in Quantico, Virginia. So, that took a few extra days. We are expecting about a week from today to get those results, but it could be a little bit sooner, and it could be up to about a week later, we are told.
CROWLEY: All right, NBC's Michelle Kosinski, live for us in Aruba—
Michelle, thank you.
And we have also learned that, just yesterday, the lead prosecutor decided to take a working vacation. It's been reported she actually took the duct tape and hair evidence with her on the plane back to the Netherlands. Apparently, the vacation was planned well in advance, and, if there is a break in the case, she will return immediately to Aruba.
Meanwhile, Natalee's foam has hired T.J. Ward. He's a private investigator. And he joins us now live from Aruba.
T.J., welcome.
T.J. WARD, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Thank you.
CROWLEY: So, first of all, how long have you been on this case on behalf of the Holloway family? That's the first question. And the second question is, have you been able to find any leads in this case that the Aruban authorities have not yet followed?
WARD: Well, I arrived yesterday, after being hired by the Holloway-Twitty family.
I was here approximately three weeks ago on—after receiving information from Ms. Janssen, who advertised that they were looking for some new technology here in Aruba to help with the investigation. We have available to us a computer program called layered voice analysis that we offered to bring here on behalf of the family.
After arriving here, we met with the Aruban government and law enforcement and demonstrated the layered voice analysis to them, which they were very excited with. And after they presented this information to Ms. Janssen, she said she was real reluctant to use the information, in efforts to—that she may spoil the investigation on behalf of the government.
CROWLEY: T.J., what is your—what is your...
WARD: And I have been here...
CROWLEY: What is your impression of the kind of investigation that the Aruban authorities have conducted so far?
WARD: Well, as we are all aware, the investigation was hampered by the police not doing what is normal in the course of a criminal investigation like this.
When they arrived on the scene after discovering that Natalee had been missing, with the van der Sloots, and at their house, the DNA evidence has been spoiled and not taken. There's nothing there now, when they should have, that night, issued search warrants and probably taken things from the home. They probably should have taken the vehicles and taken the suspects into custody right then and there and secured their clothes, so they could have pulled DNA samples off of that.
But here we are 53 days later, and now we are pulling DNA samples because of something washed up offshore called duct tape and hair, although the duct tape probably will give them a little bit more evidence than just the hair samples. They should be able to pull fingerprints and other remedies of skin or whatever from the duct tape.
This may hamper the results being taken a few more days from the FBI and from the authorities in Holland. But I think some new developments have transpired today with the new reward that is here, and in hopes that, in the course of our investigation, which we have—are going to have to start from the beginning, because, first of all, we have to find out where Natalee Holloway—what happened to her on the 29th into the 30th, much less where she is now.
So, we are here. And I have spent a great deal of time with the Holloways, Twitty family, in identifying who hasn't been talked to, what evidence hasn't been looked at from the Aruban authorities. And that's where we will start our investigation.
CROWLEY: All right. Very good.
WARD: You know, there's numerous people...
CROWLEY: Very good. Private investigator T.J. Ward, thank you so much for being with us tonight. And good luck with your efforts in Aruba.
WARD: Thank you.
CROWLEY: And now let's bring in Natalee's uncle Paul Reynolds.
Mr. Reynolds, welcome.
PAUL REYNOLDS, UNCLE OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Thank you.
CROWLEY: So , we just spoke with T.J. Ward, who is a private investigator hired by the Holloway family. Why hire a private investigator? Have you been that dissatisfied with the investigation so far?
REYNOLDS: Well, it's another avenue that we can use to obtain information and take us closer to determining what happened and where Natalee is.
We've—you know, we have had concerns about the investigation. We understand there are new people involved in the—in the investigation, and we're—you know, we are anxious to work with them. We also think there's people out there that have information. We want them to come forward. And that's—and that's the reason for the reward.
CROWLEY: Well, Paul, let me ask you about that, because it was announced today that the family has increased the reward money. Do you think that that might bring in people, or bring people forward who might have information who haven't yet brought that forth?
REYNOLDS: It certainly might.
And, again, we do feel there are people out there that have that information. We hope this will encourage them to come forward and tell the truth and—and help us out.
CROWLEY: Well, let me ask you also about the lead prosecutor in this case. Apparently, she had a vacation scheduled well in advance for this week. She went back to the Netherlands and apparently took some of the key evidence with her for analysis.
Does the fact that the lead prosecutor took off right when a potential key piece of evidence has been discovered, does that trouble you?
REYNOLDS: It's our understanding there are people there that will continue the investigation. You know, we—we want them to keep an open mind. We want them to pursue every lead, and we think they can do that. And so we're—we are certainly hopeful, and, you know, we are going—we are going to work with them every way that we can.
CROWLEY: Paul, what do you make of the discovery of this potential piece of evidence, this piece of duct tape with some hairs attached to it? Are you hopeful that perhaps this might lead to some sort of breakthrough?
REYNOLDS: You know, we are hopeful with every, every new bit of information, every piece of evidence. We try not to get too excited about any one particular piece, because it—it does lead to the tremendous ups and downs, but we want this investigated.
We want to determine whether or not it has a bearing. And, depending on what the results are, we will move from there.
CROWLEY: Paul, let me ask you, when this case first began, it got a lot of media attention, a lot of media folks down at the island.
But a lot of weeks have gone by, and certainly the media attention has dwindled a bit. How do you feel about that, number one? And, also, what about the intention being given to this case by the Aruban authorities? Are they still as attentive?
REYNOLDS: You know, I think so. People are very interested in this. We—we all want to know where Natalee is. I think that the media has done a great deal to keep attention focused on this. Everyone is interested. We all want an answer.
CROWLEY: Well, Natalee Holloway's uncle Paul Reynolds, thank you so much for joining us tonight. And, of course, our thoughts and prayers are with you and the family. Thank you.
REYNOLDS: Thank you.



On 7-21 FOX News reported:

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: An "On the Record" exclusive: This is home video of Natalee Holloway (search) you have not seen before. Joining us live in Aruba is Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty. Beth, the viewers are getting the sort of the first look at home video of your daughter. They've been hearing so much about your daughter but not seeing her. She's in a dance group. Can you tell me about this dance group? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: Well, the dance group is very well known in Mountain Brook. It's called the Dorians. And actually, you really are not eligible to try out for the Dorians until you're about to enter your 10th grade year. When the girls are in their 8th and 9th grade years, they're trying out for a team called the Spartanettes. VAN SUSTEREN: And I take it that Natalee enjoyed it. I mean, we're looking at the home video, and she seems to enjoy it. TWITTY: Oh, it meant absolutely everything. And it required such unbelievable hard work and dedication. It was something that we would spend an entire year preparing for that one tryout. VAN SUSTEREN: Does Natalee have other hobbies? TWITTY: You know, I think that was her main one. That was her main hobby, Greta. VAN SUSTEREN: Is this part of school, or is this something separate from school? TWITTY: It is a school-based dance team. You know, they dance with the Mountain Brook High School, their football teams, the basketball team. VAN SUSTEREN: All right. It's different than cheerleading, though, right? TWITTY: Oh, absolutely. It's completely different from the cheerleading group. It's a group of typically about anywhere from 26 to 32 girls, and this high school group, it's comprised of the 10th, 11th and 12th grade girls. And you know, they may have, you know, 10 girls or 12 girls from each grade. VAN SUSTEREN: I don't know if you can see the video. I mean, I know the limitations when you're at a remote location. But do you know who shot this video? TWITTY: Oh, that would be me, Greta. VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know when you shot it? TWITTY: You know, I know that's her senior year, and it's probably just a cumulative from a couple of the football games. I know there was a basketball game, and I think maybe the last dance that she did of the season of her senior year. VAN SUSTEREN: Can you see this video where you are, or are the limitations there so you're just flying blind on this one? TWITTY: Yes, I'm blind on this one. But I know them pretty well. VAN SUSTEREN: You've been in Aruba now since May 30. I take it that you've not seen any of this video because we got it out of Alabama. You've seen none of this of your daughter, right? TWITTY: No. Of course, I filmed it. And you know, she and I had reviewed it after we filmed it. But no, Greta, I have not reviewed that since probably the last basketball game. VAN SUSTEREN: Is this something, Beth, you'd really rather not see right now? TWITTY: You know, Greta, I cannot see it right now. So I can think about it and I can picture it, but... VAN SUSTEREN: Any news today, Beth? TWITTY: No, no news today. You know, as far as the investigation goes, I mean, we felt like this would be a really good push for the family maybe to open up a different avenue, as far as the reward goes. You know, we'd always had the one for the safe return in place, the $200,000. Well, it was $175,000, but now it's 200,000. But we thought this would open up maybe a new door for us, just for the whereabouts of Natalee, and also have a reward to that of $100,000. VAN SUSTEREN: Do your days change at all, in terms of the investigation? I mean, are the FBI briefing you daily? TWITTY: You know, not only do they brief me daily, but I want to say this about the FBI. Do you know, I can call them 24 hours a day, if I need to, Greta. So I have access to them 24 hours a day, seven days a week. VAN SUSTEREN: Are they able to give you answers, though, when you do call them? Do they have information? TWITTY: Well, you know, I'm always going to want more information. You know, there are certain things they can tell me and certain things they can't. But you know, I can't tell you how reassuring it is just to have access to them at any time of the day or night. VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, if you just stay with us for a second, we're going to take a break and be back in a moment. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) VAN SUSTEREN: Tonight, the reward for information leading to the safe return of Natalee Holloway has been increased to $200,000. And there is a $100,000 reward for information about Natalee's whereabouts. We're back with Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty. Beth, in terms of this reward, posters, you said, are going up. Have they actually been distributed around Aruba already? TWITTY: Oh, Greta, this afternoon, some citizens and tourists, they gathered at the Windham lobby, and they took approximately 400 posters, and they didn't come back with any, Greta. So they came back just absolutely soaking wet with sweat, so I know they worked really hard this afternoon to get those out. VAN SUSTEREN: Are they in English and in any other language? TWITTY: They are. They're in English and Spanish. VAN SUSTEREN: And is there a certain plan on how to distribute them, or do you just say, Here they are, go, just post them? TWITTY: Well, we really kind of chose some people from different spots on the island. I had met a wonderful friend in San Nicolas and had another connection in another area of the island, and then, of course, tourists covered the hotel section. So it just worked out great. I know there's still a lot of areas that we can cover tomorrow and Saturday. And also, the Red Cross here in Aruba has just been I mean, they're always they're always ready. As soon as I call them, they show up at the lobby, and they're, What can we do, and, How many can we have? It doesn't seem like I can ever give them enough. VAN SUSTEREN: Where is $200,000 from? Is that from family or donations? Where are you getting that? TWITTY: These are just from supporters from all over, Greta. This is just coming from just absolutely incredible supporters that have stepped forward and want to do this. It's just amazing. VAN SUSTEREN: You know, I get so many e-mails from people wanting to do something like this. Is there a place that they can go, the viewers, if they want to help or contribute to the reward or anything else? TWITTY: Oh, there is, Greta, and I'm sorry, I don't have that information, but I know it's with Amsouth Bank (search) in Birmingham, Alabama. VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Well, maybe we can get the information. Beth, one of the other things... TWITTY: OK. VAN SUSTEREN: One of the other things I get from viewers is a lot of people think that perhaps Natalee has been kidnapped into some sort of slave trade. I get tons of e-mails every day about that. Have you heard this at all, this rumor or this suggestion? TWITTY: Well, I mean, of course, we hear all these different theories. And of course, I mean, that is one that we hear. And you know, that's why we don't have any ideas, so I think we just need to keep both avenues open for Natalee. And you know, I think back, early on, maybe it was June 1, when I changed her poster, I think I only let it run for maybe one day with "Missing," and I immediately went to "Kidnapped" on June 1. And I'm thinking you know, I look back on that, and I certainly don't have any regrets that I ever did that, Greta. VAN SUSTEREN: What about tips? I mean, I know that the poster now provides for tips. But where have tips been going until this point? TWITTY: You know, I gather on the line that was on the first poster that we printed, and those were all coming into the local police. VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know if the police were getting tips routinely? Were they sharing them with you? TWITTY: Well, you know, not each one of them. I mean, I knew in the beginning they were getting just a tremendous amount of leads. You know, I'm really not involved in that information anymore. I mean, I feel like I'm certainly in no capacity able to even pursue any of them, and you know, I just had to turn that over to them. There's just no way we can do that. VAN SUSTEREN: All right. In terms of the tips now, with this new reward of the $200,000/$100,000, who fields those calls? TWITTY: Well, actually, I called both of those numbers tonight, so I'd really have to get more information as far as who's actually manning them, but I just wanted to see how they were working, and I called both of them tonight. On one of them, you're going to get a recording, obviously, where you could leave, if you chose to leave, your name and number. And the other one is a live person that you will be speaking with. I just wanted to try them tonight. VAN SUSTEREN: And I suppose that if you want to give a tip anonymously, that's accepted and sought? You want the anonymous ones, as well? TWITTY: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. That was the whole design in having these two different options for ways to leave a tip because, you know, that is the one thing that I wanted to assure, that you could remain completely anonymous if you chose to give a lead or a tip. VAN SUSTEREN: The father of Natalee, Dave Holloway, ran into or met Paul van der Sloot on Saturday at the jail. Any thought about that discussion they had? TWITTY: You know, gosh, Greta, I don't really know all that was involved in their discussion. But you know, I really admire Dave for, you know, setting the example to come forward and to be a strong father, and you know, want to cross that line and come and communicate with either Joran or, you know, Mr. and Mrs. van der Sloot. And I mean, I commend him for his effort in trying to arrange that. VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Beth. Thank you.



7-22-05
On January 2, 2006 BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY shared entries from her personal journal that has been documented as related to the disappearance of NATALEE. BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY stated to FOX News that on 6-12 an ARUBAN Police spokesperson, PAPITO (COMMENENCIA), told NATALEE’s Loved Ones that the ARUBAN Police had found evidence of blood in Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE's “Honda” car. The ARUBAN Police spokesperson said the ARUBAN Police were not 100% sure this substance was blood, but they do feel it was some sort of fluid, and the samples had been sent to HOLLAND for forensic tests. Nothing was heard about these samples sent to HOLLAND until 7-22, some 6 weeks later, when ARUBAN Police commissioner VAN DER STRATEN told NATALEE’s Loved Ones family liaison that the fluid found in the car is “unknown at this time,” but STRATEN also said that DNA was found in Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE's car. On 7-25 STRATEN still had no update on the “blood” tests. On 8-5 ARUBA Prosecutor KARIN JANSSEN “said it was untrue. There is no material that can reveal DNA.” (the interview ended when FOX News cut to breaking news about the coal miners trapped in a WEST VIRGINIA coal mine)
On 7-22 FOX News reported that ARUBAN Prime Minister ODUBER “asked in the letter to Attorney General Karin Janssen that the bureau be allowed ‘complete access to the dossier, including transcripts, audio tapes or video registration of interrogations, plus all materials that are connected to this case, in as much as our judicial system allows.’" Here is a partial transcript of ODUBER’s letter….
“The Government of Aruba would like to confirm by legal means necessary to guarantee the involvement of the F.B.I. in regards to the investigation about the disappearance of Ms. N.Holloway.
This involvement is to be all levels, which means that the F.B.I. must have complete access to the dossier, including transcripts, audio tapes or video registration of interrogations, plus all materials that are connected to this case, in as much as our judicial system allows. In case the current phase of investigation limits mentioned involvement, than the instruction is to use all legal means necessary to allow and even guarantee complete access to the FBI.
If external expertise in reference to above is required, you are hereby authorized and instructed to do so. Lastly, it is imperative that there should not be any doubt at all that Aruban authorities guarantee full cooperation in this case with the American authorities, as has been the case since the beginning, within the boundaries of our judicial system.”
(this ODUBER letter was also fax copied to NATALEE’s Loved Ones)
TITO LACLE reported to FOX News that 7-22 that the ARUBA Justice Minister CROES has also ordered all case info be shared with the F.B.I.
On 7-22 ARUBA government spokesman TRAPENBERG claimed “the F.B.I. agents have been advising Aruban authorities in the six-week-old investigation but have not had access to case records,” Trapenberg said Janssen had not yet responded to the government's request. The attorney general could not immediately be reached for comment 7-22. (because she is flying to HOLLAND to take a vacation)
On 7-22 RASMIJN found more duct tape in the same area. This duct tape had a red, paint-like substance on it.
The Alabama House passed a resolution 7-22 asking Alabama residents to boycott travel to Aruba, where an Alabama teenager has been missing for more than seven weeks, until the case is resolved. Vance says, " 70 percent of these tourists are from the U.S. and, if they want our people to continue to support them, then we ask them to support us back in the U.S especially in Birmingham, Alabama where this young lady's from to help us recover her body or whatever to recover her." The resolution expresses concern that no one has been charged in the disappearance of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway of Mountain Brook. The resolution was sponsored by Rep. Leslie Vance, D-Phenix City, who said he hopes the threat of losing tourist dollars will encourage officials in Aruba to speed up the investigation. "This is a way to say to the authorities down there that you have to get serious about this," Vance said. On 7-22 ALABAMA State Representative VANCE stated, “We are asking Alabamans to boycott Aruba until the officials, the authorities in Aruba does something to help the family of the Holloway young lady, to do something that it—you know, it's a sad situation because we feel like the people there have not done what they should do.” Representative Jim Carnes, Republican, Mountain Brook, ALABAMA, whose district includes Holloway's residence, said he supports the resolution. "I think we need to do something to get their attention," Carnes said. "One of our citizens went there as a tourist and apparently something terrible happened." The resolution is not a law. Vance said it is just a recommendation asking Alabama tourists to avoid Aruba until the Holloway case is resolved. Another house member, Rep. Jim Carnes of Birmingham introduced a resolution urging the U.S. Congress to start it's own investigation into Natalee's disappearance.
On 7-22 NATALEE’s Loved Ones released video tape taken of her dancing with her high school dance group the “Dorian’s” her senior year. Her family released their home movies hoping they would help keep her memory alive while ARUBAN authorities try to find her or find out what happened to her.
On July 24, 2005 JOSSY MANSUR stated to FOX News about a previously unknown (and as of 7-24 still not publicly named) witness who had seen post-5-30 photos of Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT , Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE , and Current Murder Suspect SATISH KALPOE. JOSSY MANSUR stated that after 3.5 weeks (circa 6-30) of the ARUBAAN's news-source "Diario" people hearing about, searching for, finding, and helping to convince this witness to come forward, the witness did come forward on 7-22 and made a written, sworn statement to the ARUBAN Police. The witness, who works as a gardener, was on his way to a cooler location early the morning of 5-30. Between 2:30 AM and 3:00 AM, as the witness drove by the “Aruba Racquet Club” on a dirt road only 200 yards from the “Marriott Hotel,” the witness noticed a car blocking a majority of the dirt road so the witness had to slowly drive closely past Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE's silver “Honda” car sitting with its lights switched off. The witness saw Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT sitting in the drivers seat, One of the Current Murder Suspects KALPOE was in the front passenger seat, and the other Current Murder Suspect KALPOE was in the back seat. As the witness slowly drove closely past the 3 Murder Suspects, the 3 Murder Suspects noticed the witness, and Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT quickly turned his head and hid his face, and simultaneously the Current Murder Suspect KALPOE in the back seat quickly laid over and down onto the back seat, seemingly to also try and hide his face. JOSSY MANSUR stated the witness did not see NATALEE sitting upright in the back seat of the car. (she could have been already at another location, laying down on the seat, or she could have been placed in the car’s trunk already, etc) JOSSY MANSUR mentioned that one day while one of the Current Murder Suspect ’s KALPOE’s was still in prison and he was playing dominoes with someone, someone mentioned to Current Murder Suspect KALPOE that this witness had seen the 3 Murder Suspects at 2:30 AM to 3:00 AM. The Current Murder Suspect KALPOE who heard this reportedly threw the dominoes up into the air in an anxious reaction to hearing about being seen 5-31 at 2:30 AM. Somehow, someone from ARUBAAN's news-source "Diario" heard about the Current Murder Suspect KALPOE reacting anxiously about being seen by the witness, and ARUBAAN's news-source "Diario" persons decided to try and locate the witness, which they did locate. JOSSY MANSUR stated the witness was initially scared, but they convinced him to make a written, sworn statement to the Police.
MSNBC reported 7-22 that T. J. WARD is lining up Investigators in closeby VENEZUELA to see if there might be evidence that NATALEE might have been kidnapped.
On July 26, 2005 CARLOS A. PENATA RAMOS, the gardener witness, gave the following statements to his ARUBAN Police Interrogators:
(Thank You and Hat Tip to the “Scared Monkeys blog" and “Debbie”)
HERE is the drawing that RAMOS provided showing where he saw the 3 Main Murder Suspects in the car.

PROCESS – VERBAL I, Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, sergeant at the Korps Police force Aruba and at the investigative district classified 2, explain the following. On Tuesday, July 26, 2005 around 17:30, I, KELLY showed, at the Police force guard North, to the witness C.A. PENATA RAMOS, the seized gray Honda Civic belonging to the suspect D.S. KALPOE. The car became of interest in the search of the missing girl Natalee Holloway and was intentionally seized. C.A. PENATA RAMOS explained thereby this: I recognize the car which you now show me as the car in which I had seen the three boys on the night of Monday. It is the car in which I had spoken in my declaration. W.n.g.C.A. PENATA RAMOS After I, KELLY, read the declaration of the witness to him in Spanish, he explained that he would not sign it. He explained that he will grant no further collaboration to the Police force. Of which by me, KELLY, on oath of office made up this warrant which has been closed and has been signed at Bubali on 26 July 2005. Signed, S.B. KELLY




On 7-22 CNNHN reported:

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, the clock is ticking. DNA testing under way in high-tech crime labs half a world apart at FBI headquarters, Quantico, Virginia, and the Hague, Netherlands. Scientists do their best to extract and identify DNA on four strands of blonde hair. It is day 54 of the Natalee Holloway missing girl case. An Aruban park ranger discovered the hair on duct tape found on an Aruban beach. And tonight, DNA samples from jailed suspect, the judge's son, Joran van der Sloot, and the Kalpoe brothers also under the microscope. And any hour, we here at NANCY GRACE will learn whether that hair belongs to 18-year-old Alabama beauty and star student Natalee Holloway.
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But first tonight, is blond hair discovered on duct tape on an Aruban beach Natalee Holloway's. Dutch and FBI lab experts working around the clock to make that DNA comparison.Tonight, on the phone from Meridian, Mississippi, Natalee's father, Dave Holloway is with us; in New York, defense attorney Alex Sanchez; in Atlanta, defense attorney Renee Rockwell and prosecutor Eleanor Dixon; in L.A., psychoanalyst Bethany Marshall. But first, to WBMA-TV reporter, Anastasiya Bolton. Anastasiya, bring us up-to-date, friend. ANASTASIYA BOLTON, REPORTER, WBMA-TV: Nancy, following negotiations earlier this week, the FBI will now be able to more closely monitor the case in Aruba and actually be able to help Aruban authorities in this investigation. If you remember, previously the FBI was just an observer on the island, watching what the authorities were doing in this investigation, trying to look for Natalee Holloway. Aruban authorities previously denied the FBI any access to statements, evidence, anything pertaining to the investigation. Now, starting today, or possibly next week, they will have access to all of that material. They will not be able to interrogate the suspects. They will have access, though, to every single piece of evidence. That is, of course, a key development in this case. Another development, the Texas EquuSearch team is going back next week. As early as Thursday, 14 members are going back with more equipment to look for Natalee Holloway. GRACE: Very quickly to Natalee's father, Dave Holloway. Dave, thank you for being with us. My question to you is, is it second verse, same as the first? Will they really allow the FBI to take a role in the investigation, or is this just more lip service from the Aruban government? DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FATHER: Well, the role will be limited primarily to allowing the Arubaans to utilize FBI resources and any other assistance they may need. As you're well-aware, they're not allowed to be involved in the investigation, because, if they were, that information or whatever they investigated would not be allowed in any prosecution. So it's basically allowing them to, I guess, utilize their equipment, resources, and put another eye on what investigation material that they do have now. GRACE: Well, at least they're sharing. At least they're allowing the FBI in to a certain extent. Back to Anastasiya Bolton with WBMA. I want to go back to the prosecutor, Karin Janssen. She's gone on vacation for two full weeks, but at least she managed to drop off the DNA evidence at the Hague in Netherlands. Did she hand-deliver that? BOLTON: Yes, indeed, Nancy, she did on the way to her vacation. She did hand-deliver that evidence, which is, of course, being processed right now in the forensic lab. She's not working alone on this case. She has another prosecutor helping her out and keeping a watch while she's on vacation until August 3rd, as we understand it. Overall, about 25 people are working on this case, including the FBI, including the Police department in Nor (ph), which is right next to the beach where Natalee was last seen. And some people from the Dutch government are actually on the island helping out with the investigation, as well. GRACE: I want to go back to Dave Holloway. With us is Natalee's father. Dave, I was talking about this the other night with Jug Twitty. Did you hear that Delta has chosen this moment to announce its new nonstop flights from JFK to Aruba, including signature cocktail drinks? I don't know. That just rubbed me the wrong way. It's going to be a cold day in you-know-where before I head down to Aruba. HOLLOWAY: Well, in their defense, they were able to help me out in my plane ticket. So...GRACE: They did? HOLLOWAY: They were helpful in my situation. GRACE: OK, Dave. I'm going to go easy on Delta Airlines tonight. It's hard to find an airline company, but I am willing. Very quickly to defense attorney Renee Rockwell. Renee, we have both handled a lot of DNA cases, hair cases. Now up until recently, if you had two heirs, even if they belonged to the same person, you could not absolutely say, "This hair came from that head." No. Now, however, with nuclear DNA, taking out of the roots of hair, mitochondrial DNA, which is traced only through the mother's DNA line, you can make an absolute, 100-percent match to a particular person. How devastating will it be? There were other hairs on that duct tape, too, Renee, dark hairs and blonde hairs. If this turns out to be Natalee Holloway's hair on that duct tape. RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, it'll be staggering, mostly because, if you remember the story given by the van der Sloot's is that he last saw Natalee way up on the top of the island. The hair was found down on the bottom of the island, some 25 minutes away. It shows foul play. If two hairs are on there, one from van der Sloot or any of the Kalpoe boys, it shows that they were together when there was foul play. And it certainly shows a horrible inconsistencies with the stories, as where they described they last left her. GRACE: And to Eleanor Dixon. Eleanor's handled a ton of DNA cases, as well. The developments in hair evidence, mitochondrial DNA, explain. ELEANOR DIXON, PROSECUTOR: Well, I think it's good, because now, as you said before, we can get DNA if we have the root of the hair. And that's great in this type of case. It's very helpful, especially if they can find out that one is the defendant's -- or I'm sorry, or the judge's son, and one is the victim, Natalee Holloway, although I'm not sure if they'll be able to determine that or not and if they've said whether or not it's the root. What I find interesting, Nancy -- and I don't know about you, but I've never been asked to take evidence to the crime lab. And I find it interesting that the prosecutor actually took that evidence to the crime lab. And it makes me wonder what kind of importance this evidence has in this case. GRACE: Well, another reason she's saying that, Alex Sanchez -- I agree with her. I've stood by many a time and watched through a glass wall while a defendant had his blood taken for DNA analysis, Alex. But, in this country, you have a chain-of-custody problem. If the prosecutor takes the evidence to the crime lab for DNA comparison, then they become a witness. They've actually -- they're the link between the drawing of the blood and the crime lab. And what's the prosecutor going to do, put down her files, and go get up on the stand, and swear herself in? What do you think about the prosecutor herself taking the DNA, the hair, the actual hair? We've only got four of them, Alex, to the Hague. ALEX SANCHEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I don't like it. GRACE: I don't like it either. SANCHEZ: I think it's an improper procedure. They should have an independent Investigator conducting these type of investigations, handling the evidence, vouchering the evidence, holding on to the evidence, delivering it to the Hague or wherever they're going to deliver it, and then bringing it back to court, so that person can get on the witness stand and be cross-examined. Otherwise, at least in this country, you could have the prosecutor removed from the case and call them as a witness in the case. So why put yourself in that position?GRACE: But, of course, we've learned that everything there is upside- down compared to our system. Take a listen to this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: With the new investigative team, I've got T.J. down there. And I know he's going to dig. He's going to dig into some things that nobody else will give me answers to. I want them to go back from the beginning. I want the statements from the two uniformed officers that were there with me that night that spent two hours with us, at least their written report that they had that night. And I want them to dig into Paulus van der Sloot. And he's involved in this, and I want them to dig and dig and find out more information.(END VIDEO CLIP)GRACE: Very quickly to psychoanalyst Bethany Marshall. You know, Bethany, we just showed Judge van der Sloot's backside as he was running down an alley. CNN correspondent Karl Penhaul was chasing him with a microphone, trying to get some answers. You know, for a while, the judge was behind bars, under suspicion as well. To me, it would be a huge sign of good faith if he, too, submitted himself to a DNA sample. BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: I would agree, because, not only have the kids changed their stories, but the parents on the side of the suspects have shown no remorse. They've shown no willingness to go along with the investigation. I have all admiration for Beth Twitty. If all the mothers in the United States were like Beth Twitty, there wouldn't be as many crimes. GRACE: I got to agree. You know, Dave Holloway, if it hadn't been for you guys going down there, I think you brought a lot of the information to the Police before they could get it themselves in Aruba. You were all over that. Very quickly, Dave Holloway, did you meet up with van der Sloot's father at the jail? HOLLOWAY: I did. GRACE: What happened? HOLLOWAY: Well, we had a -- our initial conversation prior to entering the jail was about the fact that I wanted to meet with his son and ask him to profess his innocence, that he's claiming that he's innocent in this case, well, just tell me to my face and let me hear it, because I've heard everything on the news media and through limited information.We got through the Police that he says he's innocent. So I wanted him to tell me that. And of course, his father stepped in and indicated that too much time had passed, and I would not be allowed to do that. And I ended it with, "Well, why don't you just discuss it with your son? And if you have a change of heart, let me know." And then I decided to stay until the end of the visitation and approached Paulus again. And he again declined that I meet with his son. GRACE: What do you mean, "too much time has passed," it's too late to talk to his son? HOLLOWAY: He wouldn't elaborate on it. GRACE: That doesn't even make sense, Dave. (CROSSTALK) HOLLOWAY: ... wanted to go back in. GRACE: That doesn't even make sense. Too much time has passed? Yes, 53, 54 days have passed since Natalee went missing. HOLLOWAY: That's right. And then the other excuse he gave was that he could understand my situation, but, as a father of Joran, he'll do anything to protect his son. GRACE: Well, at least he spoke to you, Dave. Every time we've tried to speak to him, he shows us his backside and takes off running. I want you to know there's a standing invitation to the families and attorneys of Joran van der Sloot, including that father, the judge, to come on and answer some questions, as well as the Kalpoe brothers. So far, for some reason, they have declined. And just a few hours ago, the Alabama House of Representatives has passed a resolution asking Alabama residents to boycott travel to Aruba until Aruban officials help us solve this case of Natalee Holloway. Stay with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: For to us have a Police chief that's retired and just drop the case totally, I guess now. First I heard he was going to stay on, now he's going to go to Holland. And now you're telling me my prosecutor is going to leave for two weeks? I just don't know who's running the show.(END VIDEO CLIP) (COMMERCIAL BREAK)(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TWITTY: We need to speed this process up. It seems like every day it's starting to speed up a little bit. Somebody's going to talk down there. And I hope T.J. can get down there, as I say, and make his magic work, because I can't get anybody to communicate with me, from the Police and even the FBI. I know they've worked hard, but I think they feel like that they can't tell me -- worried about what the Aruban Police are going to say, if they do tell me. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: Welcome back, everybody. I'm Nancy Grace. We are live in Aruba and the latest on the case of a missing American girl, Natalee Holloway. As the case drags on, finally Aruban authorities have allowed the FBI to at least take a look at the files. Back to Anastasiya Bolton, WBMA-TV reporter. Tell me about the boycott that has been now requested by the Alabama House of Representatives. BOLTON: Nancy, the legislature here is in a special session. And they used today partially to, I guess, issue a statement, or a resolution, rather. They're suggesting that Alabamians boycott any travel to Aruba. They're hoping that travel dollars, when the Aruban authorities feel the pinch of the lack of travel dollars, they will do something or more on this investigation. The representatives are concerned that 53 days have passed since Natalee has been last seen and nobody has been charged in this investigation. GRACE: To Renee Rockwell, how soon do you think that the results from the DNA will come back? And what's the significance of September 4th? ROCKWELL: The September 4th significance is that, if there's nothing that shows that there's strong suspicion that any crime was committed, van der Sloot is out of jail. There's a two-year window to complete this investigation and prosecute this case. But with the DNA, it's not going to take a long time, it just seems like there needs to be more than people going on vacation and turning over Investigators on this case. Thankfully, the Holloways have hired their own detective. GRACE: To Dave Holloway, Natalee's father. You know, Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers both gave DNA saliva swabs this Tuesday for DNA testing. But do we k.ow what authorities are going to compare those swabs to, Dave? HOLLOWAY: No, I don't. In fact, Beth and I both gave DNA samples to the FBI and the Dutch authorities within days of our arrival in Aruba. So I know that request was asked of them sometime in early July. And it was just out in the field. So I have no idea about that. GRACE: You're seeing newly released video of Natalee Holloway. Dancing was one of her loves in life. She was a star student in Alabama and has a full scholarship waiting for her at college. Her dream, to become a doctor and help other people. This newly released video of Natalee Holloway, you're seeing it right now. As we take a look at that, Eleanor Dixon, why parents' DNA? Obviously, the parents weren't even there at the time Natalee went missing. DIXON: Because, obviously, they'll be able to determine something about Natalee Holloway's DNA from her parents' DNA, obviously because she got hers from them. That just makes sense. So they're going to get everybody's DNA who's involved as suspects and also parents of Natalee, because they don't actually have Natalee here, sadly, to get samples from her. And that way they can compare it and compare the suspects, as well.GRACE: Dave Holloway, did you supply Natalee's DNA, such as a toothbrush, a hair from a comb, anything? HOLLOWAY: I think Beth had all that information, which Natalee's suitcase was packed and ready to go. And it did have hair samples on it and her toothbrush. GRACE: And I, very quickly, want to go to Alex Sanchez. I'm concerned as to where the defense will go. Even if we get a positive match, all right, from this hair, the defense will then have another fallback position. You know, they say they left the girl at one spot. The tape and the hair turned up somewhere completely different. Will they have a fallback position, if the hair matches Natalee? SANCHEZ: Look, if the hair matches Natalee, I mean, that's not a good development for the defense. I think at this point -- I mean, just looking at it from a defense point of view, the best thing the defense could do is just remain quiet, because if nothing develops beyond the hair matching, I don't know if the hair matching is enough to establish criminal liability. GRACE: Please, what would her hair be doing on duct tape? SANCHEZ: Yes. GRACE: You know, when you go out for a night at Carlos and Charlies, you don't expect to have your head wrapped in duct tape, Alex. SANCHEZ: Yes, well, you know something, Nancy? I'm going to tell you something. I hope that hair is not Natalee's, because I hope that -- and maybe this is just wishful thinking. I hope she steps off a boat, and walks into her parents' arms, and says, "Look, I'm home." I really don't want there to be evidence indicating that she's a victim of a violent crime. GRACE: Well, none of us do, Alex. None of us do, Alex. But I want to know which way these defense attorneys are going to take the Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot, if it does come back as a positive match. We've got more from Aruba, but we've got to take a quick break. Very quickly to "Trial Tracking." Jacksonville, Florida, Police say a couple found in a shallow grave in Georgia were buried alive. The sheriff's office says the cause of death for Carol and James "Reggie" Sumner, both 61 years old, was asphyxiation. Eighteen-year-old Bruce Nixon tonight being held without bond in jail on charges of murder, kidnapping and robbery. …
GRACE: The search goes on for 18-year-old Natalee Holloway. Tonight, Aruban officials announce they will allow the FBI to at least look at the files. Texas searchers called EquuSearch head back to Aruba to help look for Natalee with a new piece of equipment that actually looks down into the earth. We're hearing tonight, Renee, that some of the hair is not 12 inches, that it's four inches. Significance? ROCKWELL: Well, it could -- certainly, her hair was long, but it could be her bangs. It could be hair that was broken off. It's certainly a change of events. It's not as exciting and maybe as helpful as it would be, if it would have been her hair. GRACE: The spot, both at Tortuga, the spot on the island where the hair on the duct tape was found, Renee, you say how far from the Marriott? ROCKWELL: It's about a good 20-minute drive by car. So it's certainly out of the realm of their last stories. GRACE: Anastasiya Bolton, what's the reaction back home in Alabama to the duct tape discovery? BOLTON: People are cautiously optimistic out there. I've spoken to the family. And of course, people in the community are constantly asking me what is going on. But so far, so many things have come out in this case, so much stuff possibly related to Natalee Holloway's disappearance, have been discovered in the last 50 days, they're cautiously optimistic. GRACE: Dave Holloway, very quickly, final thoughts as we go to break? HOLLOWAY: Well, just like the other guy said, I'm kind of hoping it's not her hair on the duct tape. And again, whatever happens has already happened. And if this is the clue that God gives to us resolve this, then, you know, maybe we'll have resolution. But you know, we just keep hoping and praying that something will develop and break in the case. And this may be one of them.GRACE: With us tonight, Natalee's father, Dave Holloway, still hoping for a miracle. This is newly released video of Natalee Holloway. We'll all be right back. Please stay with us. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)



On 7-22 the BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA “Birmingham Post Herald” reported:

Tabloid pulled in Mountain Brook
National Enquirer had story on HollowayJuly 22, 2005By ANDREW NELSON BIRMINGHAM POST-HERALD The Publix supermarket on Overton Road has pulled The National Enquirer from checkout racks because of a story about missing Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway. A front page article in the July 15 edition of the supermarket tabloid titled "How Natalee Was Killed" details a "stunning new theory" as to how events transpired in Aruba after Natalee Holloway was last seen by her classmates in the early morning hours of May 30. The article includes references to drug and alcohol use, and most of it is based on third-hand information, a standard considered unacceptable by most U.S. newspapers. The decision to pull the tabloid off the shelves of the supermarket at 3141 Overton Road, which serves much of Mountain Brook, was made by the store manager, said Brenda Reid, media and community relations manager for the Atlanta division of Publix Super Markets "We pulled the magazine because we know Natalee's family and friends shop in that store," Reid said. "We thought it was in the best interest of the family and friends not to be reminded constantly of this tragedy." The Enquirer is a national supermarket tabloid, that is often regarded as sensationalist. Holloway, who vacationed with classmates on the island following her high school graduation, has not been seen since May 30. No evidence has been released to the public that Holloway, 18, is dead. Her mother and stepfather continue to search for her on Aruba. Attempts to reach Marcia Twitty, a stepaunt of Holloway and a spokeswoman for her family, were not successful Thursday evening. The Piggly Wiggly grocery store at 93 Euclid Ave. in Mountain Brook also has pulled the issue from its shelves, the store's night manager said. The manager, who would not give his name, said he did not know why the store removed the tabloid. Jim Dooley, 50, of Mount Pleasant, S.C., and his wife, Bella Dooley, are the sources of much of the information in the article. Dooley said he was confused to hear the Publix store had pulled the tabloid from its checkout lines. "I was puzzled by it," he said. "I was wondering what objection they might have to the content of the story, other than the presumption by virtually anyone that Natalee is, unfortunately, no longer with us." Dooley heard the information reported in the article from a women's clothing store saleswoman in the Charlotte, N.C., area who once operated a store in Aruba. She said she is friends with Paul van der Sloot, the father of Joran van der Sloot, a suspect in the case. Dooley passed the information on to the FBI the next day. He also called several national news organizations — all of which did not use the story — before calling The Enquirer. After the story was published, some of those same organizations called him back. He appeared on Court TV the day it hit newsstands.



On 7-22 the “AP” reported:

Holloway family boosts reward
Alabama teen missing for more than six weeks
ORANJESTAD, Aruba - The family of Natalee Holloway increased the reward Thursday for help finding the Alabama teenager who has been missing for more than six weeks.
There is now a $200,000 reward for her safe return and $100,000 for information that helps authorities solve the mystery surrounding her disappearance, the teen’s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, said at a news conference.
Holloway, 18, disappeared May 30, hours before she was to catch a return flight to Mountain Brook, Ala., at the end of high school graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island. Extensive searches by Dutch marines, Aruban police, and some 2,000 volunteers have found no trace of her.
“By offering the substantial cash rewards, a plea is made to everyone with any useful information to please call the tip line,” Twitty said.
Previously, the family had posted a reward of $175,000 for Holloway’s safe return while donors offered more than $50,000 for information on the teen’s whereabouts.
The teen’s family has also hired a private investigator to help in the search, said Vinda de Sousa, a lawyer for Twitty.
“That does not mean that they have no confidence in the local authorities,” de Sousa said.
Holloway was last seen in public leaving a nightclub with Joran van der Sloot, a 17-year-old son of a judge in training on the island, and two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. All three were arrested on June 9 but only van der Sloot remains in custody. No one has been charged.
Authorities took DNA samples from the three on Tuesday, a day after investigators said they would conduct DNA tests on blond hair attached to duct tape that was found along Aruba’s northeastern coast. It could take a week or two before the test results are known.



On 7-22 the National Enquirer” reported:

DRUG DEALERS 'WILL KILL TEEN IN ARUBA CASE IF HE TALKS'By DON GENTILEDutch teenager Joran van der Sloot is terrified he and his family will be murdered if he confesses all he knows about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.The National Enquirer can reveal that police on Aruba are investigating this theory, which centers on whether narcotics dealers supplied Joran with the drug ecstasy, helped him get rid of Natalee's body — and told him he'd vanish forever if he didn't keep his mouth shut."Joran's statements have changed many times because he does not want police to find out who helped dispose of Natalee's body," said a source close to the case. "Police believe that people involved in getting rid of the body have threatened to murder Joran and his family if he ever names them."Natalee, 18, vanished May 30 while on a high school graduation trip to Aruba with classmates from Alabama's Mountain Brook High School.She was last seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a car with Joran, 17, and his friends, Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and his brother Satish, 18.During their investigations, police have arrested two security guards, Joran, the Kalpoe brothers, a party boat disc jockey and Joran's father Paulus. All were released except Joran — and he remains the prime suspect.Joran maintains his innocence but has changed his story. First he said he dropped a drunk Natalee off at the Holiday Inn where she was staying after a makeout session with her in the back of the Kalpoes' car. Later he said the Kalpoe brothers dropped him and Natalee off on a beach near the island's Marriott hotel and he left her there alone.As The National Enquirer reported last week, police theorize that Natalee died accidentally, possibly drowning after she fell and hit her head in a drug-induced stupor. Police also believe Joran confessed to his father that Natalee had taken ecstasy and when she died, Joran panicked and decided to get rid of the body. But he needed help — and knew where to find it."Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that's where he got the drug," said the source."When Natalee died, Joran got in touch with the dealer. The theory is that the dealer had an incentive to dispose of her body so that police wouldn't trace the drugs back to him. But the dealer made it clear to Joran that if he talked he'd disappear too."On a similar note, police are investigating whether Paulus, a former justice department official, helped his son get rid of Natalee's body by contacting shady characters he knows."The police are looking into Paulus van der Sloot's finances and whether he might be connected to mobsters that may have ties to Aruba's casino business," said the source. "Paulus is a known high-stakes poker player."The National Enquirer has also uncovered details of Joran's activities in the early hours of May 30."Police discovered Joran used his cell phone to send an instant message marked 'URGENT!' to Deepak Kalpoe at approximately 2.45 am," said the source. "The instant message essentially told Deepak that Joran was walking home from the beach. He said he had 'left the girl behind.'"At approximately 3:30 am, Joran sent the first of a series of other instant messages from his home computer to Deepak indicating he needed to talk to him about something important. After examining Joran's cell phone and computer, police discovered that someone tried to manipulate the clocks and calendars inside the devices so it would look like the messages were sent at different times."Police think it's suspicious that Joran's instant message to Deepak was marked urgent — they believe it was critical for Joran to reach him to concoct a phony story about what happened to Natalee."Published on: 07/22/2005



7-23-05
On 7-23 the DECATUR, ILLINOIS “Decatur Daily” reported:

N.C. store clerk: Spoke to FBI about Aruba case
By Paul Nowell Associated Press Writer
PINEVILLE, N.C. — A North Carolina woman who lived in Aruba and knows the family of a Dutch youth held in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway says she has been questioned by the FBI.
But Rosa Palmer denied claims she got incriminating details of the case from the suspect's father.
Her denial runs counter to the story of a South Carolina man who contacted the FBI saying Palmer told him details about Holloway's disappearance — including claims the teen died after accidentally falling and hitting her head on a rock while intoxicated, and could have been dumped in shark-infested waters off the coast of Aruba.
Palmer said she owned a clothing store in Aruba with her husband for about 14 years before they sold it last year and moved to the Charlotte area. She now works at a small boutique in a suburban shopping mall.
Interviewed by AP late Thursday, Palmer said her son had been a school friend of Joran van der Sloot, who is jailed in the case, and she said has known parents Paul and Anita van der Sloot for years.
"I haven't seen them (the van der Sloots) since 2001," she said, adding that she also has not spoken with the family since then.
Palmer declined to discuss her conversation with an FBI agent who telephoned her to talk about the van der Sloot family.
Jim Dooley, a personnel recruiter from Charleston, S.C., said he struck up a conversation with Palmer while waiting for his wife to try on clothes in the store where Palmer works.
Dooley told the AP that Palmer shared details of the case that she said came from Paul van der Sloot during a phone conversation shortly after Joran van der Sloot's arrest. Among the details was that Holloway died after falling and hitting her head on a rock at an Aruban beach.
Dooley, whose claims were first reported by a supermarket tabloid, The National Enquirer, said Palmer did not say anyone told her what was done with Holloway's body, but she surmised it was dumped in a spot off the northern coast of Aruba known for sharks.
Interviewed by the AP, Palmer denied speaking with Dooley.
But Dooley said he was able to give the FBI details about Palmer, including the fact she had lived in Aruba. "How would I know what I know without talking to her?" he said Friday.
An FBI spokesman in Birmingham declined comment on whether agents had spoken with Palmer.
Palmer said she believes officials at the International School of Aruba, which her son attended with Joran van der Sloot, know more than they have said.
Speaking fondly of Anita van der Sloot, Palmer said it was "surreal" to watch news accounts involving a family she knew in Aruba.
Associated Press reporter Jay Reeves in Birmingham contributed to this report.



On 7-23 the CLARION, MISSISSIPPI “Clarion Ledger” reported:

Clerk claims FBI phoned her about teenThe Associated PressPINEVILLE, N.C. — A North Carolina woman who lived in Aruba and knows the family of a Dutch youth held in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway says she has spoken with the FBI about case of the missing Mississippi native.Rosa Palmer, a native of Cuba, said she owned a clothing store in Aruba with her husband for about 14 years before they sold it last year and moved to the Charlotte area.She now works at a small boutique in a suburban shopping mall.Palmer said she was questioned about the case by the FBI but knows nothing about Holloway's disappearance.Her claim runs counter to that of a South Carolina man who said he contacted the FBI after Palmer told him details about Holloway's disappearance — including claims the teen died after accidentally falling and hitting her head on a rock while intoxicated.Holloway lived with her mother in Mountain Brook, Ala. Her father, Dave, and stepmother, Robin, live in Meridian, Miss. Holloway also had attended Clinton Junior High School in Clinton, Miss.Interviewed by The Associated Press late Thursday, Palmer said her son had been a school friend of Joran van der Sloot, who is jailed in the case, and said she has known parents Paul and Anita van der Sloot for years.But she said she knows nothing about what happened to Holloway."I haven't seen them (the van der Sloots) since 2001," she said, adding that she also has not spoken with the family since then.Palmer declined to discuss her conversation with an FBI agent who telephoned her to talk about the van der Sloot family."I gave the FBI my home phone number and even my cell number," she said, adding that she has not heard back from the agency since that conversation.An FBI spokesman in Birmingham, Ala., did not immediately return a call seeking comment on Palmer's involvement.Jim Dooley, a personnel recruiter from Charleston, S.C., told the AP he referred the FBI's Birmingham office to Palmer after she shared with him details of the case she said came from Paul van der Sloot during a phone conversation shortly after Joran van der Sloot's arrest.Dooley said he struck up a conversation with Palmer while waiting while his wife tried on clothes in the store where Palmer works.He said Palmer quoted Paul van der Sloot as saying Holloway died after falling and hitting her head on a rock at an Aruban beach.Dooley, whose claims were first reported by a supermarket tabloid, The National Enquirer, said Palmer did not say anything about what was done with Holloway's body.Interviewed by the AP, Palmer denied speaking with Dooley; he said her claim was "obviously" untrue, since he was able to give the FBI details about Palmer, including the fact she had lived in Aruba."How would I know what I know without talking to her?" he said Friday.Palmer said she believes officials at the International School of Aruba, which her son attended with Joran van der Sloot, know more than they have said.Speaking fondly of Anita van der Sloot, Palmer said it was "surreal" to watch news accounts involving a family she knew in Aruba.



On 7-23 it was reported that defense attorneys for Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT were already talking about filing an injunction to try and prevent the F.B.I. From looking at the case files.
On 7-23 Assistant Prosecutor FLANEGIN traveled to the UNITED STATES to transport all audio, video and statements pertaining to NATALEE’s case to the F.B.I. in Washington D.C. FLANEGIN will be observing the F.B.I.’s investigation of the evidence at the request of Prime Minister ODUBER.
The lawyers of the three suspects have each made a petition on 7-23 against sending the HOLLOWAY dossier to the UNITED STATES for evaluation. On 7-25, a decision will be made to consider the petition, but either way, the F.B.I. will/has received the dossier and can actively begin assessing the information considered as evidence. Meanwhile, Prosecutor GERRESTSCHEN is actively investigating the HOLLOWAY case on ARUBA with cooperation from the ARUBAN Police department, 3 Special Agents from HOLLAND, and in daily contact with ARUBA Prosecutor KARIN JANSSEN who is in HOLLAND with the forensics evidence and Assistant Prosecutor FLANEGIN.
On 7-23 MSNBC reported that there have been many more than 2 pieces of duct tape found in the same area, but that most of the additional pieces probably have no evidentiary value, and may not be forensically tested.
On 7-23 T. J. WARD stated to MSNBC that his team is lining up VENEZEULAN Investigators to help investigate a kidnapping scenario.
On 7-23 TITO LACLE reported to FOX News that the initial results of DUTCH forensic tests on the duct tape and its hairs may be in ARUBA by 7-25, 26, or 27.
For weeks the rumors that STRATEN is Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT ’s Godfather have been circulating. This rumor is finally confirmed on 7-23 by an F.B.I. agent that has been in ARUBA watching on this case unfold.
On 7-23 the MADISON COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI “Madison County Herald” reported:

Prayers for Natalee, family offered during Aruba tripby Mark Doironguest ColumnistOn a flight from Atlanta to Aruba for our family vacation, I was sitting next to a gentleman from Birmingham, Ala.I asked him if he knew Natalee Holloway, the former Clinton resident who disappeared in Aruba, or the family.The gentleman introduced himself as Matt Whatley. His daughter was Natalee's roommate at the Holiday Inn. This was his fifth trip to Aruba since Memorial Day weekend.At our house for the past several weeks the entire family has been glued to news reports coming from Aruba because it is our family vacation destination. I told Whatley that my 6-year-old twins were innocently wanting to come to Aruba to help find Natalee. He broke down and was visibility moved by my kids' response.Throughout the flight I listened as Whatley talked about Natalee. He pulled out a huge file showing me faxes from psychics, posters and police reports. I read one psychic's report that was handwritten on 18 pages. This was one of 13 documents the family had received from psychics.Whatley told me that after Natalee first came up missing, her mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, himself and others confronted Joran van der Sloot and Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. He said Joran was very obnoxious and repeated that Natalee was very drunk.Whatley told me that the story from the boys involved had changed so many times. When Natalee first came up missing, Whatley and family members even went to some crack houses to investigate Natalee's disappearance. Just think about the risks family and friends are taking to search for Natalee.After landing, I wished him and the Holloway family the very best and if they need anything that we would be staying at the Marriott.The day after our arrival to Aruba, I got a message to come to the front desk. Whatley had brought my family some handmade Natalee prayer bracelets made from colorful yarn. My family wore them everywhere.When I call back home, everyone asks me about Natalee. The only news about Natalee I see here on the island is in the local paper, Aruba Today. News is sporadic.I have seen media people from NBC, FOX and networks walking around the Marriott. Many have been stationed here for more than a month. My wife, Christy, and I came upon a FOX news studio one evening while going to dinner. Fox's Greta Van Susteren was going to interview Beth Holloway Twitty and Dave Holloway, Natalee Holloway's parents.While eating sushi at the Marriott lounge we watched the interview on the TV.Dave Holloway was interviewed first. During the interview with Beth Holloway Twitty, Dave Holloway and Natalee's aunt, Linda Twitty, walked up to catch the interview on TV. After Beth was interviewed, I approached Dave Holloway and told him that my wife and I were from Mississippi.He wanted to talk about home. Aruba is full of tourists but most are from the northeastern United States. Having someone from home to talk to was a relief!We talked about our businesses since we both are in the insurance business, people we both knew from Meridian (where he currently resides), Clinton (where he use to live) and Madison, and other Mississippi news.Later, I told my wife, Christy, that I noticed the stress in his face. Holloway told me that he has been on the island every day but five days since Natalee's disappearance.Everyone we see, from the members of the news media to locals and tourists, has his own story as to what happened to Natalee.Aruba is truly one of the safest places in the Caribbean. I believe that the Aruban police are just as frustrated about Natalee's disappearance as everyone else. I feel for the family and I know if I was in their shoes I would be doing the very same thing that Beth Holloway Twitty and Dave Holloway are doing every day — looking for their daughter and using the media to get the message out.Dave and Beth, everyone back home in Mississippi is praying with you in your search for your daughter, Natalee.Mark Doiron is a businessman, developer and an All State agent on U.S. 51 in Madison.



7-24-05
On 7-24 JOSSY MANSUR stated to FOX News about a previously unknown (and as of 7-24 still not publicly named) witness who had seen post-5-30 photos of Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT , Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE , and Current Murder Suspect SATISH KALPOE. JOSSY MANSUR stated that after 3.5 weeks (circa 6-30) of the ARUBAAN's news-source "Diario" people hearing about, searching for, finding, and helping to convince this witness to come forward, the witness did come forward on 7-22 and made a written, sworn statement to the ARUBAN Police. The witness, who works as a gardener, was on his way to a cooler location early the morning of 5-30. Between 2:30 AM and 3:00 AM, as the witness drove by the “Aruba Racquet Club” on a dirt road only 200 yards from the “Marriott Hotel,” the witness noticed a car blocking a majority of the dirt road so the witness had to slowly drive closely past Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE's silver “Honda” car sitting with its lights switched off. The witness saw Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT sitting in the drivers seat, One of the Current Murder Suspects KALPOE was in the front passenger seat, and the other Current Murder Suspect KALPOE was in the back seat. As the witness slowly drove closely past the 3 Murder Suspects, the 3 Murder Suspects noticed the witness, and Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT quickly turned his head and hid his face, and simultaneously the Current Murder Suspect KALPOE in the back seat quickly laid over and down onto the back seat, seemingly to also try and hide his face. JOSSY MANSUR stated the witness did not see NATALEE sitting upright in the back seat of the car. (she could have been already at another location, laying down on the seat, or she could have been placed in the car’s trunk already, etc) JOSSY MANSUR mentioned that one day while one of the Current Murder Suspect ’s KALPOE’s was still in prison and he was playing dominoes with someone, someone mentioned to Current Murder Suspect KALPOE that this witness had seen the 3 Murder Suspects at 2:30 AM to 3:00 AM. The Current Murder Suspect KALPOE who heard this reportedly threw the dominoes up into the air in an anxious reaction to hearing about being seen 5-31 at 2:30 AM. Somehow, someone from ARUBAAN's news-source "Diario" heard about the Current Murder Suspect KALPOE reacting anxiously about being seen by the witness, and ARUBAAN's news-source "Diario" persons decided to try and locate the witness, which they did locate. JOSSY MANSUR stated the witness was initially scared, but they convinced him to make a written, sworn statement to the Police.
On 7-24 HANK VAN DER AA stated that with regard to the first DUTCH forensic testing of the 7-17 found duct tape, the “results don’t seem to be successful.”
On 7-24 a “Riehl World View” blogger identified as “chance” wrote “Alec, as you can see now, I was telling truth about contact in Aruba. My contact had contacted Croes grandma (who he lives with), and I knew the story that Croes had told his grandma. If you are following the news, this story is same reason he is going free tomorrow....
Here's the story he told his grandma: He was on boat cleaning it, he heard arguing on beach, he then decided to go and check it out. He went out and check and recgonized Deepak and then decided it was nothing, so he went back in boat. He told that the 4 people arguing were the brothers, Joran, and a girl. He went to cops with this info, next day, cops arrest him. Back on the day I posted this, this was the story I knew cuz it was from his grandma. Today upon his release, we learn that he made up a story to back up his friend story and went to cops with it, then cops find out it not a truthful acct since the perps had changed their story. But as you see now Alec, I do have sources in Aruba, and that they very much connected to key players in this story
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7-25-05
On 7-25, NATALEE’s Loved Ones posted a new reward of
US $1,000,000.00 for her safe return
US $100,000.00 already offered for a tip to her whereabouts
On January 2, 2006 BETH shared entries from her personal journal that has been documented as related to the disappearance of NATALEE. BETH HOLLOWAY-TWITTY stated to FOX News that on 6-12 an ARUBAN Police spokesperson, PAPITO (COMMENENCIA), told NATALEE’s Loved Ones that the ARUBAN Police had found evidence of blood in Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE's “Honda” car. The ARUBAN Police spokesperson said the ARUBAN Police were not 100% sure this substance was blood, but they do feel it was some sort of fluid, and the samples had been sent to HOLLAND for forensic tests. Nothing was heard about these samples sent to HOLLAND until 7-22, some 6 weeks later, when ARUBAN Police commissioner VAN DER STRATEN told NATALEE’s Loved Ones family liaison that the fluid found in the car is “unknown at this time,” but STRATEN also said that DNA was found in Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE's car. On 7-25 STRATEN still had no update on the “blood” tests. On 8-5 ARUBA Prosecutor KARIN JANSSEN “said it was untrue. There is no material that can reveal DNA.” (the interview ended when FOX News cut to breaking news about the coal miners trapped in a WEST VIRGINIA coal mine)
On 7-25 AL.com” reported:

Aruban officials consult with FBI
A group of Aruban officials are in the United States this week to consult with the FBI on the case of missing Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway. A prosecutor on the case, a police investigator and a legal expert started work today at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Va., according to the Aruban prosecutor’s office. They will spend the week going over evidence with American experts in the hope of finding a key to the case. Holloway, 18, disappeared May 30 on a graduation trip to the island. Extensive searches in the weeks since have turned up few clues. Seven people have been arrested, but six have been released. The seventh, 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot, is still in detention but has not been charged.Prosecutor’s spokeswoman Mariaine Croes said the Aruban team brought documents and other materials pertaining to the case with them.The FBI was expecting to receive transcripts of interviews conducted with suspects and witnesses, said agency spokeswoman Judy Orihuela. The agency is also testing duct tape and strands of hair found last week on the island’s northern coast, she said.Hannah Wolfson

**NOTE** WOLFSON is a reporter in BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA for the “Birmingham News”


On 7-25 JOSSY MANSUR stated to FOX News that it is his belief that since Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE left his home during the early morning hours of 5-30, and since Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT , supposedly, confessed on 6-11 that “WE buried Natalee,” and since the un-named gardener witness saw Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT with both Current Murder Suspects KALPOE’s at 2:30 AM to 3:00 AM, near the pond near the “Aruba Racquet Club,“ that Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE was also involved in the initial burying of NATALEE.
On 7-25 the "AP" reported, “The public prosecutor's office said in a statement that Amalin Flanegin, a senior member of the prosecution team, and a Police Investigator would be at the F.B.I. crime lab for a week with materials gathered during the investigation to discuss the case. They did not specify the materials.”
On 7-25 JOSSY MANSUR stated that on 6-13, at 7:50 PM, Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT claimed ARUBAN Police Interrogators that he has a suspicion of where Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE buried NATALEE. Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT claimed Police interrogators that after NATALEE fell asleep on the “Marriott Hotel” beach, and after Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT left NATALEE alone on the beach when he walked away, he believes that Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE went back to the “Marriott Hotel” beach, raped then murdered NATALEE, then Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE buried NATALEE near the fishermen’s huts. After the interrogators hear this, at about 8:00 PM on 6-13 they took Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT to the “Marriott Hotel” beach where he pointed out to them a beach spot close to the south end of the fishermen’s hut where he left NATALEE. (FOX News GRETA VAN SUSTEREN stated that she knows that JOSSY MANSUR is also working on other information related to these 6-13 claims by Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT ) ((if these 6-13 claims about Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE were recorded by the 6-13 Police interrogators, and if that 6-13 statement was available to the judge during the hearings--WHY was Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE allowed to go free on 7-4????))
On 7-25 LINDA ALLISON told FOX News that on the day that the cement-filled barrel was removed from the ocean she had a chance to speak with civilian-clothed STRATEN (who watched closely for 3 hours but never helped). LINDA ALLISON asked STRATEN why the DUTCH marines could not work with “Texas EquuSearch,“ and STRATEN said because the marines can only work with the ARUBAN Police---a couple days later the marines WERE seen searching with the ARUBAN Police. LINDA ALLISON asked STRATEN his theory on what happened to NATALEE. STRATEN told LINDA ALLISON that he has 3 theories. The first theory STRATEN told LINDA ALLISON is that Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT did something to NATALEE. STRATEN then drew a map of ARUBA in the sand and indicated where STRATEN told LINDA ALLISON that a witness had seen something, then FOX News GRETA VAN SUSTEREN walked up to LINDA ALLISON and STRATEN and STRATEN quickly erased the sand map (STRATEN never discussed another theory of what happened to NATALEE). LINDA ALLISON stated STRATEN never told her that he was retiring but did mention he was soon going on vacation.
On 7-25 NBC reported that an as yet un-named witness has come forward who, supposedly, knows where the body WAS. The witness is reportedly cooperating with the ARUBAN Police.
On 7-25 TITO LACLE reported to FOX News that 3 DUTCH specialists-in-interrogations inspectors have arrived in ARUBA, have been sworn-in, and will start interrogations of Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT on 7-26, and probably will also recall Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE and Current Murder Suspect SATISH KALPOE for interrogations.
On 7-25 TITO LACLE reported to FOX News that his sources say that the 3 DUTCH specialists-in-interrogations inspectors “are ready to crack this case open,” and TITO LACLE reported to FOX News that the sources think there is a possibility the case may be resolved within 2 weeks.
On 7-25 GRETA told O’REILLY that when GRETA interviewed NADIRA RAMIREZ that NADIRA RAMIREZ told her the only way she thought that Current Murder Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE and Current Murder Suspect SATISH KALPOE were home (if she did not see them come in) was if each Current Murder Suspect ’s bedroom door was closed. NADIRA RAMIREZ told GRETA that she never saw the brothers in the early morning dark hours of 5-30, but, their bedroom door was each closed.
On July 25, 2005 and August 1, 2005 DAVE HOLLOWAY stated to CNNHN that he has measured the distance from the “Aruba Racquet Club” to the “Marriott Hotel” beach at 500 yards.
On 7-25 CNN reported:

LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, a rare joint interview with both sides of Natalee Holloway's family nearly two months after she vanished, as they await test results, which could come any time now, on hair stuck to duct tape found on a beach in Aruba. Could there finally be a break in this mystery? With us from Aruba is Natalee's mom, Beth Holloway Twitty and her stepfather Jug Twitty, also with us Natalee's biological dad Dave Holloway and her stepmother Robin Holloway. They are all next on LARRY KING LIVE.Good evening. We begin this extraordinary coverage of Aruba by going to our gal, Susan Candiotti, our CNN correspondent. She's in Miami. She's been covering this from the get-go.Susan, anything -- any late developments?SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, there have been a number of developments this day. But the latest that's sparking a lot of interest, Larry, is a sworn statement that was taken on Sunday, by Aruban authorities, looking into Natalee's disappearance. And this comes from a man who is employed as a gardener on the island, and he came forward to say, that on the night of Natalee's disappearance, he was driving his car, at about 2:30 in the morning. Why at that hour? Well, he said he didn't have air- conditioning. It was really hot and he was trying to get to someone else's house. Along the way he was driving and along a dirt road that's near this local racquet club that's very popular there, he said that he saw a parked car. And he said he noticed this because he was going at a fairly good clip and he had his headlights on and he almost hit the car, quite frankly, he told authorities. He says -- he claims that this car looked like the Kalpoe brothers' car, one of the two boys that was with Natalee, along with Joran van der Sloot. He said he was able to not only recognize them, he said, but also Joran van der Sloot being in the car. And he said that he had -- it is also reported that they ducked down in the car, try to somehow avoid his glance, but that he claims he was able to recognize them before moving down the road.Larry, that's just one new thing that authorities are looking at.KING: And what -- if that witness' story, let's say, is true, what does it mean? CANDIOTTI: Well, it could be important because it at least puts the three, young men out there, at that hour. You will remember that they were reported to have left the bar at about 1:00 in the morning and then they said they -- of course, there are different versions here. But one of the many versions that we've heard, according to them, is that they dropped off Natalee and Joran van der Sloot, at the beach, that they spent some time there. And according to one version of the story, van der Sloot said that he left Natalee there at the beach, and made his way back on his own.There's another version that says that he was with the boys in the car, and that -- we don't know how much time he would have spent at the beach. But at least it would have put them in the vicinity at about the time that -- after they would have dropped her off at the beach, let's say.Now, there is a question about this because -- one question that's being raised is that it would take about a half hour to get from that spot back to the Kalpoe brothers' home. Why is that significant? Well, because we know from authorities and from law enforcement sources that the Kalpoe brothers -- one of them said that he was using his computer at about 3:00 in the morning. So, you'd have to drive, according to our accounts, pretty, darn fast, to get from that particular spot, near the racquet club, back to the Kalpoe brothers' home, turn on your computer and get online into a chat room at 3:00 in the morning. KING: Before we talk to the parents, why so late? Why didn't he come forward sooner? CANDIOTTI: Well, he is not saying exactly why. But we do know this; there is concern by some of the witnesses who have come forward, about certain ramifications that would happen. We do know that three witnesses that have come forward, for example, remember the young man who worked on the party boat, the disc jockey? He was fired from his job after coming forward. We also know that the Kalpoes' mother was fired from her job after her sons were released. And also, the security guards were fired after their involvement became known. So we don't know why, but we put that out there. KING: All right. Let's get reaction to this part of the story from Natalee Holloway's mother. Beth Holloway Twitty is with her husband, Natalee's stepfather in Aruba.Beth, anything happening that encourages you at all to get some answer? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: Oh, absolutely. You know I think Jug and I are both thinking this week, you know, a lot of good things have been set into motion, from, you know, the FBI, now, beginning to have access to -- from declarations to audio and videotapes. You know of course this witness coming forward now. I mean that's encouraging. I know now they'll probably be spending a lot of time just making sure how incredible his story is.And I mean I think there are several good things that have been set into motion. Of course the reward that we've been able to increase for a safe return. So you know we're just optimistic that, you know, maybe we'll have a break this week. KING: What is the reward, now, Beth? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Well, now, it's $1 million for her safe return, then, $100,000 for her whereabouts. KING: Jug, you're the step-father of Natalee. Are you encouraged as your wife by at least getting close to closure? JUG TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Larry, I'm a lot more encouraged today -- that I got back on the island yesterday around 3:30 and I could already tell things were really starting to move. You mentioned earlier that -- the lady you had on there that they had this new witness. That statement was actually taken last Friday not Sunday. But I could tell as soon as I got there that things were happening. We were talking to the FBI today. I could tell that things are really moving. And I just hope and pray that, you know, we can get some answers. You know it could happen tomorrow. It could happen, you know, Wednesday, but I think we're getting a lot closer.KING: We'll be checking in a moment with T.J. Ward, the private investigator, hired by the family but let's get Dave Holloway's reaction. He's in Meridian, Mississippi and he is Natalee's father. What's your read, Dave?DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FATHER: Well, Jug echoed everything new that develops that kind of brings the case closer and closer to resolution. And someone had mentioned earlier on the last show, that, you know, what good is this gardener? Well, at least he's a witness and maybe he has some information that will help us narrow down the timeline and hopefully find the haystack. And if we can find the haystack, we can find the needle. KING: Robin, is it getting exasperating? ROBIN HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPMOTHER: I never dreamed it would be seven days later. Every day we wake up, we pray please let today be the day we have the answers. And here we are six, seven days later and at least -- we're so relieved that the FBI is involved now. And you know we're getting closer. It's just frustrating it's taking so long, though. KING: It's not a big island, Dave. Doesn't it boggle your mind? Doesn't -- isn't there thoughts that maybe she is somewhere else? D. HOLLOWAY: Well, that's the thread of hope and a miracle that I'm holding on to, you know, maybe she is somewhere else. But the FBI and the Police have indicated to us, over a month ago, that they're looking into this case as a murder case. And as a parent -- and I know Beth and jug probably hope that maybe there's a miracle out there and that she is off the island somewhere. But the Police indicate that that's probably not a reality. KING: We'll take a break. When we come back, we'll get the thoughts of T.J. Ward, the private investigator hired by the Holloway- Twitty families, president and CEO of Investigative Consultants International. We'll also be including your phone calls. Don't go away.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)MARSHA TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S AUNT: They're just typical, high school girls.UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Out on the beach.M. TWITTY: Out on the beach, having a good time on their senior trip. There's nothing unusual. Thousands and thousands of kids go on senior trips every summer and they should. I mean these are -- these kids are growing up.(END VIDEO CLIP)(COMMERCIAL BREAK)KING: Again, we will be including your phone calls. T.J. Ward joins us from Aruba, the private investigator hired by the families.All right, what do you make of these -- this witness story? And I understand you even have another witness story. T.J. WARD, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Yes, thank you, Larry. This has been a very challenging case, not only having to create our own investigation, not being able to deal directly with law enforcement here in Aruba, but we've followed up, from the information that we gathered on Friday, from the witness that was found in the Aruba Racquet Ball Club. And I went door-to-door today in the racquet ball club and was able to locate another witness, who described the vehicle in question, owned by the Kalpoe boys, and they were able to tell me and describe, clearly, the car in question, being in the area and in the racquet club, around the homes, about six weeks ago, which was estimate somewhere after the 29th and 30th of May.After she gave me a description, I went and obtained a picture of the car that was obtained by law enforcement, on the 29th of May and 30th, and brought the picture back to her. And she was able to describe the car to a "t." And what was interesting that stuck out was the taillights -- who had custom taillights on it with clear covers over red lights. And not only did she describe those taillights, but she described it all the way down to the wheels of the silver Honda Accord, which very may well be the vehicle in question, being belonged to the Kalpoe brother.I just find it very interesting the car being in the neighborhood. This lady -- the subdivision is -- it's kind of remote right now. It's still under construction. And she's one of the few people that live there. And she was at home this night, along with her daughter and she heard, and monitoring traffic coming in and out of the subdivision, being under construction, and was able to get a good glimpse of this car and give us a good description today, which I took this information -- after getting a detailed description, and took it to the Aruban authorities and the FBI. KING: And what do you surmise from it?
WARD: Well, what I believe is if something was placed or Natalee was in that area on the 29th into the 30th, they may have been back looking for something that they may have left or some evidence they may have left, or looking for things that they -- could lead directly to Natalee. KING: Do you agree, as they're saying, that this is a murder case, T.J.?WARD: I would say that this case now, being the FBI is on board, this is going to be treated as a murder case and the evidence is going to be gathered in the fashion a murder case would, and prepare -- and in fact, if it is a murder case, and prepare the evidence accordingly to go forth with a trial, if necessary.As you're well aware, that the evidence from the beginning of this investigation was not taken: the DNA, the search warrants issued, the vehicles taken into custody, the information and the clothing from the suspects were not taken as they normally are in a Police investigation that we're used to in the United States. We were hampered here. And not only with that information not being available, for us to come down here and not be able to deal with the Police one on one, or directly, or to get any evidence that they may have, we -- you know we're hampered on this thing from the beginning. But we have found information from people that know -- have direct knowledge of this investigation, and we're continuing to follow up and gather information accordingly. KING: Do you chalk it up to the limited experience of Aruban Police? WARD: I think they're probably experienced in their own capacity. And I don't think they're operating in the 21st century. And -- but I think they're highly-trained. I mean their Police academy and all is even more complex and compatible than what we're used to in the U.S. So I don't believe it's the training. I think there's just this investigation got hampered by somewhat, I might say, political motivation, by the Police chief that was involved. And I find it very strange that there was probably a major conflict of interest, where people should have stepped down and stepped out of the way, when this case began. KING: Beth Twitty, are you a little concerned that the reward of $1 million could also bring out scam artists? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Well, I'm sure that they're going to have a peak in calls. And you know once we made that public notice today, I've kind of given a -- you know informed the FBI that, you know, it was about to be set into place, and of course, they knew about it prior. But I just wanted to make sure they knew first-hand that I was going to be disclosing it today. And you know I think that's probably something that they're all prepared to handle with, you know, a peak in calls. And I'm sure they'll be able to weed out which ones are valid and not. KING: Jug, is it true there rumors in recent weeks that Natalee might be in Venezuela or some place else? J. TWITTY: Absolutely. I get those rumors every day. You can go on the Internet. You can -- you know we get calls every day at my house and in the hotel room. And Larry, that's one of the reasons that we went forward with the $1 million reward because, you know if she is out there, and if she is alive, and if she is in, you know, Peru or Venezuela or wherever, you know, hopefully somebody will come forward, you know, and let us know that. If not, then we can direct our attention into other places.KING: Wouldn't that be joyous? We'll take a break and come back and your phone calls shortly. We'll get into the -- what's the latest on the duct tape and the hairs that Susan Candiotti get us up to date on that and your phone calls on this edition of LARRY KING LIVE. Don't go away.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Natalee, you can reach me on your cell phone. I have it and it's set up for international use now. And I will stay here until I find you, Natalee.We are just doing everything we possibly can in helping to, you know, further the search for Natalee.(END VIDEO CLIP)(COMMERCIAL BREAK)KING: We'll be going to your calls shortly.Sandy -- Susan Candiotti, what's the latest on the Netherlands work on the hairs and the duct tape? CANDIOTTI: Well, just to remind -- for everybody in a recap where that stands: remember both the Dutch have a sample and they're analyzing a piece of duct tape with some hair that was found on it, four strands, we were told, but also the authorities provided a sample of this to the FBI. And a sample was hand-carried to the FBI's lab at Quantico, Virginia. So they are also taking a look at it. Haven't heard anything from the Dutch authorities. There are all these rumors afloat out there, but nothing, according to Aruban authorities about what's happening in the Netherlands.As far as the FBI goes, also, the FBI tells us they are not placing any kind of artificial deadline on how long this will take. Since they received their sample last week -- I know they spent at least a day -- at least a day, figuring out what method they were going to use to look at this tape, and look to see what's on it -- hair, any other body tissue, anything else that might be on it and then compare it against DNA samples that they have received from Natalee, from her mother, which would match Natalee, from Joran van der Sloot and from the Kalpoe brothers to see if there is a match -- Larry.KING: In a perverse sense, Dave Holloway, do you want that to be your daughter's hair? D. HOLLOWAY: Well, if it was my daughter's hair, then that would cut the only last thread of hope that we have that she was alive. So...KING: You hope it's not? D. HOLLOWAY: I hope it's not. KING: You, too, robin, right? R. HOLLOWAY: Oh, yes. I mean if it -- that would mean the worst if that's hers. We -- you know we hope it's not. D. HOLLOWAY: But Larry, we have to face that. If God gives us this clue and that's what it, is then that's what we'll have to deal with. KING: T.J., you have something called layered voice analysis and you've tested out people involved in this. What does that do? WARD: The layer voice analysis, well, we consider it a 21st- century polygraph. It's a little bit different. The polygraph, where you're -- as you're aware, you have to be wired up to and it measures blood pressure, and heart rate and pulse and so on and so forth. Our system, layered voice analysis, measures the voice. And I can take any conversation, whether it be live, from TV, from a media tape, from an audiotape, a deposition, and I can analyze that and I can tell you not only if you're telling the truth but if you're hiding something. KING: Without hooking me up to a machine? WARD: Don't have to hook you up to anything. I can do it over the phone. And I can tell you whether you're being dishonest or you're thinking from your memory or your imagination, or if you're -- or if you're just not telling the truth or whatever. KING: Have you used it with anyone here? Have you used it in Aruba? WARD: Well, we brought it in Aruba about three weeks ago and we shared it with the law enforcement, and we shared it with the Aruban government, and gave demonstrations. And they were very pleased with it but the prosecutor was afraid this would jeopardize her position on her case. But we were able to analyze some tapes of some of the individuals directly involved in this and not directly involved. KING: And? WARD: And we have gotten some reactions. We've gotten some reactions. It's given us some answers. We're keeping this information that we found kind of on the lid right now to be able to use it later on. KING: And let's go to some calls. Hagerstown, Maryland, hello?CALLER: Hi, Larry. My question is after two months, why are these witnesses just now coming out of the woodwork? KING: Do you have a thought as to why, T.J.? WARD: Well, there's been -- this case has been hampered and it's been in another direction. If you'll recall, we went first, to the security guards, who -- which I believe, and from information that I received, the law enforcement here knew that these people had alibis a few hours after they got taken into custody. And if you'll remember that they were kept into custody for 13 days, when they should have been released and they should have focused their direction on other things that are now coming down the woodwork.We know that Joran van der Sloot is a suspect and a high-priority suspect in this case. That's why they're keeping him still in jail. The Kalpoe brothers that got let out of jail, and I think was by mistake, I think will probably be re-arrested after the information that stands -- that flows now, and with the FBI being --- assisting the Aruban government will come and prevail here later.KING: But the thought was, Beth, I think, that the witnesses came forward late because other witnesses lost their jobs, right? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Well, you know, my take on that is, you know, I think everyone is -- you know you're just -- you're so afraid to disclose something or come forward and you know, maybe they just had to have a certain assurance or trust level before they decided to come forward. I mean I'm not going to penalize them for, you know, holding that for two months.I'm thinking that, you know, like T.J. was saying, of course, you know, we were looking at the two security guards for a long time. I mean you know Joran, and Deepak and Satish weren't even arrested until the 9th. And then I really don't even know where it was going at that point. So maybe there's just a comfort level that certain individuals had to come to before they could come forward.KING: Lancaster, Pennsylvania, hello?CALLER: Hi, Larry.KING: Hi.CALLER: Where is the $1 million reward money coming from? And also what will happen to the $1 million if Natalee is not safely returned? KING: Beth? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Well, the money is coming from a group of supporters, a group of friends. And, you know -- the money will be brought forward when we have Natalee safely in our arms.KING: Yes, well, there's...HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Should we not, you know...KING: You're not going to give it out...HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Go ahead, Larry.KING: ...if she's not found. And obviously...HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Well, yes.KING: ...the money will...HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Right.KING: ...remain with whoever has put it up or be returned to people if it was donated. And if you have information leading to what might be tragically, the death of Natalee, that's $100,000, right? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Well, now, the $100,000 is just for the whereabouts of Natalee.KING: Just the whereabouts? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: ...they know where she is. Exactly, if somebody know -- maybe -- may know where she's being held and may be not able to physically -- to get her or to return her. So I mean, you know, it's just leading to the whereabouts of Natalee, is how we're looking at.KING: We'll take a break, and when we come back, a lot more phone calls. And also, we'll ask why there doesn't appear to be, on the part of the family, more anger over the way this has been handled. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. You're watching LARRY KING LIVE and we'll be right back. Don't go away.(COMMERCIAL BREAK)KING: We're back. Let's reintroduce the grouping and get some opinions and more calls. In Aruba is Beth Holloway Twitty. She's Natalee Holloway's mother and Jug Twitty, Natalee's stepfather. In Meridian, Mississippi is Dave Holloway, Natalee's father, and Robin Holloway, Natalee's stepmother. And these families are friendly. In Aruba is T.J. Ward, private investigator hired by the Holloway-Twitty families, president and CEO of investigative consultants international. And in Miami, is Susan Candiotti, CNN correspondent who has been covering the Natalee Holloway case. Beth and Jug, we'll start with you Beth, why aren't you angrier at authorities? At the way this has been handled?HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: You know, Larry, I think everyone knows that I've kept a journal since day one, and If I were to go back and list things that I wanted to happen -- and I think you know the things that I wanted to happen. You know, I was sitting in the backseat of a car at 4:00 a.m., on the 30th, and I was waiting on search warrants, Larry. I was waiting on the car to be impounded. I mean, I was already thinking in those terms, forensics to be done from the car on the 31st. You know, looking at video footage, and confirming that Deepak and Satish and Joran had had lied to us, had lied to Jug and I, to her family, that they had dropped her off at the Holiday Inn, and led us on that trail. And the authorities were allowing them to -- obstruction of justice, and lying to authorities. I mean, yes, there's a long list from that, Larry, it's a long list.KING: Jug, are you angry? J. TWITTY: I've been there. I've been there several times. I'm probably -- everybody asks, if Beth's good cop, I'm bad cop, because I've had several instances where I just have gone ballistic. And I try to just keep my cool. And I've had several conversations with van der Straten, and everybody knows that van der Straten do not see eye-to-eye, because from the beginning we just -- I just didn't believe that they were doing enough. That's why I'm so excited about the new team that's in there. And I can already tell, being here a day and a half, that some new things were happening. I don't -- I mean, I can't go back to the beginning again. But yes, I've been very frustrated. KING: Robin Holloway, have you been? R. HOLLOWAY: What's been frustrating is the first critical ten days. And you can't change that. You can't bring that time back. But, you know, so much is happening now. And, yes. We still don't have Natalee, but we're pleased with the way the investigation's going now. And we just hope to get our answer soon.KING: And Dave? D. HOLLOWAY: I've held a lot back, Larry, for sure. And, you know, you just got to keep your dignity and composure, and keep on going. You know, we've come a long ways. And a lot of people are involved. I don't think we'd be here, where we're at now, if we would have blown up and caused a stir up front.KING: Warrior, Alabama, hello. CALLER: Hi, Larry. KING: Hi. CALLER: I've got a question. I'd like to know if the FBI is going to get to interrogate the van der Sloots and the Kalpoe brothers? KING: T.J., do you know?WARD: No. They cannot. The letter that was handed down by the administrative justice and the Holland government says that the FBI can monitor and oversee the investigation and give the authority to direct what needs to be done. But they cannot get directly involved in the case. KING: Because of -- that's Aruban case? WARD: Yes. The Aruban authorities have the run on this case. And the FBI here is to oversee and monitor what evidence is taken. And give them direction on what to do in this case. That's the only authority that they have. They will have no authority to sit down and interview. Now I'm sure they'll be able to monitor if there are future interrogations, they will be able to do that. But it's my understanding through the letter of the law that was brought down, and the joint efforts between the United States and the Holland and the Aruban government, the FBI will just monitor what transpires. KING: And Joran van der Sloot's attorney, we understand, has filed motions relating to their involvement. He doesn't want them to have access to anything.WARD: Well that's kind of interesting, also. Because if these defendants or suspects, we'll still call them, don't have anything to hide, then I don't know why he's going through the motion and trying to keep the FBI out from bringing their expertise in here to assist the Aruban government. KING: Because the prime minister wants them more involved. WARD: That's exactly right. KING: To Elaine, Arkansas, hello. CALLER: Hello. I'd like to know if the new and unfinished housing development that the lady said she saw this car going around three times, and noticed it specifically, has been thoroughly searched by the Aruban government, et cetera. KING: Beth, do you know? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: No. I can't answer that, Larry. KING: Do you know, Jug? J. TWITTY: I know it's been searched early on. I mean, they searched the racquet club, and that's what she's speaking about, but they searched that early on. And then, all of a sudden, it resurfaced big-time, yesterday. So, I don't know. You know, one of the things that bothered me a little bit was when Tim Miller and his search group were here. They probably knew some places that he could have looked a little bit harder. And I don't think they sent him there. KING: Dave, what do you think? D. HOLLOWAY: The dogs went through it. In fact, I spoke with Tim earlier today, and he's going to bring another dog back to search it again. KING: T.J. Ward, shouldn't they search that exhaustively? WARD: Well, I believe they did. I wasn't here. This is new evidence. And I know today that the FBI, along with the Aruban government, were flying helicopters over the area. And I know that the FBI took my reports that I gave them today, and were going to follow up with the lady that give us the information today. And I'm sure that will be followed up thoroughly, beings the FBI is going to oversee this investigation. KING: Susan, we're not giving sources away. Have any of the FBI agents expressed to you any of their own thoughts about this? CANDIOTTI: Privately, there is frustration about the inability to be as involved as they would have liked to have been. But we can tell you certainly on the record, that there is some daylight there now. You remember last week, that there was a meeting between the head of the Miami FBI office and -- who flew down to Aruba to meet with law enforcement down there, people who were in charge, the prime minister was also there, and that's what led to this letter, apparently, from the prime minister, asking that the FBI be more involved. And in fact, they are.As a matter of fact, just the other day, over the weekend, a contingent, a team from Aruba, flew to FBI offices in -- at Quantico, Virginia, and they brought with them materials, videotapes, audiotapes, of witness statements and the like, and now, those are -- to discuss those with the FBI. So they could go over some of these materials, as the FBI, for example, had asked to do. Now, some of that, presumably, will be happening now. KING: We'll take a break, and back with more phone calls. Don't go away.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's the most responsible, smart, beautiful, incredible friend that I've ever known. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was a little bit more outgoing than everybody else. She was just always the fun one to be around. She was always laughing and having a good time.UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's a strong girl, and she'll get through this. And she knows that we're all praying for her.(END VIDEO CLIP)(COMMERCIAL BREAK)KING: We're back. Westport, Massachusetts, hello. CALLER: Hi, Larry. KING: Hi. CALLER: First of all, I want to tell the Holloways that my prayers are with them and for Natalee and also my question is: Shortly after her e disappearance, did they think of checking the dumpsters at the hotel and the dump where they dump all the food and all that? KING: Beth? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Larry, I'll have to address that one to maybe to Jug. I'm not sure. J. TWITTY: We asked the Police if they would check the dumpsters, the landfills, the -- you know, and all I can tell you, Larry and to the caller is that we asked the questions and we felt like early on in the investigation, all this was being done. Now, whether it was really done early on in the investigation, I don't know. KING: Dave, are you amazed at the worldwide reaction to this? D. HOLLOWAY: Very much so, Larry. It gets me every time I watch TV and see that it's on, you know, every hour and it's just amazing how, you know, the attention that it's brought. KING: How do you explain it, Robin? Do you think it's other parents thinking about their high school kid going off somewhere? R. HOLLOWAY: I think the whole world has just fallen in love with Natalee. This could be anybody's daughter and just unfortunately, this is our Natalee. But this could be anybody's nightmare and I think people relate to that. KING: Monument, Ohio. Hello. CALLER: Larry, Hi. I wanted to ask: Have they thought about using psychics to help find Natalee? KING: Have you thought about that, Beth? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: You know, Larry, not only have we thought about it, we've had some wonderful individuals that have actually flown them out here on the island and they've spent days and just have not been successful. So, we have tried. KING: Jug, do tourists talk about this a lot? J. TWITTY: The tourists that are here on the island, you know, we have these orange bracelets like this that my daughter had made up and you would not believe -- I mean, when Beth and I walk through the lobby of anywhere they're all coming up and you know, they want to, you know, give us their thoughts and hug us and hug Beth. Yes. They're all very, very concerned about it. You know, they want to try to help find Natalee. Everybody here is concerned about it. KING: T.J., if a hurricane were to hit, what would that do to the search? Might it help in a way? WARD: Well, it might. It might disturb the water enough to turn it over if she is in the ocean. And in some of those lakes and ponds. It may help and I think early on a couple of weeks ago, there was a part -- a hurricane hit the back of the island or whatever. But -- and I think it did disturb the water. That may have been the reason that the duct tape came about. We don't know. KING: Cincinnati, Ohio. Hello. CALLER: Hi, Larry. My question is for Natalee's mom. KING: Yes. CALLER: Very early on in the case, there was an alleged murder confession from one of the suspects that mysteriously changed to a "something bad happened to her." Why has that dropped off the map and why has nobody pursued that "something bad happened to Natalee?" KING: Beth? HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Well, you know, that's what I'm hoping that the FBI will be -- they will have access to the early declarations. Those ones -- those ones that were taken on June 9th. Surely they were taken around 8:00 -8:30 a.m. and probably continued to take them from the individuals throughout the day. So, you know, we'll just have to wait and see what was on that declaration. I don't think that -- of course, obviously, we don't know what was on that declaration. KING: T.J., you -- how you would you put -- are you confident that you're going to get an answer or not? WARD: Well, I mean we're working very hard at it. From the very beginning, I mean -- we have no access to what law enforcement has. So, the information that we're gathering is from the people, from witnesses we know that haven't been interviewed. And like today, knocking on door-to-door, finding out information and where we were, we did end up coming up with somebody that saw a car that we were interested in. KING: Susan Candiotti, reportorially, do you think you're getting close? CANDIOTTI: Well, that's really hard to say. This has been so difficult for the -- for everybody involved. In particular, obviously, for the families, but in terms or, for example, the alleged confession, I can tell you according to sources, that they have no information about any kind of confession. Now, maybe as Mrs. Holloway -- as Beth has said, perhaps now that more of the early statements the FBI might be getting access to, might be able to finally put that to bed, one way or the other, whether that's actually happened. KING: I know that Beth and Jug have to leave us. They've had a long day. Beth, you have, as you know, our best wishes. We hope that something breaks in this. The best news, of course, is that somewhere she is around. HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Absolutely. And Larry thank you so much and all the supporters, they are absolutely incredible, Larry. Absolutely. Every one of them, are amazingly supportive. So -- KING: And Jug, thank you very much. J. TWITTY: Thank you. And thank everybody, like Beth says. The phone doesn't stop ringing. The cards and letters don't stop coming. So, you know, America, the world is helping us find Natalee and you know -- Beth. HOLLOWAY-TWITTY: Yes. KING: Thank you both very much. We'll be back with Dave and Robin, T.J. Ward and Susan Candiotti and more phone calls right after this. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)KING: Dave, before we take our next call, I know you're in Mississippi, but the Alabama Legislature has passed a resolution urging Alabamans to boycott Aruba until Natalee's case is resolved. What are your thoughts on that? D. HOLLOWAY: Yes. Well, I read about that Saturday and you know, I really don't have any comment about it. You know, I just -- I don't have any comment about it. KING: Robin, do you? R. HOLLOWAY: I -- at this point, I don't think they should do that. They're being cooperative. They're sharing information with the FBI. I mean, they want this case solved as bad -- well, almost as bad as we do. But I mean, right now, we're gracious with the information they are sharing with the FBI. I disagree with that at this time. D. HOLLOWAY: Larry, I...KING: Dallas, Texas -- I'm sorry, Dave. Go ahead. D. HOLLOWAY: I just took a liking to the local people there and I know that, you know, they have jobs and stuff in the hotels. I would just hate to see that a hard-working person lose their job because of tourism. KING: Why economically damage them for something they didn't do? D. HOLLOWAY: Yes.KING: Dallas. Hello? Are you there, Dallas? CALLER: I'm here. KING: Go ahead. CALLER: As a teacher who chaperons students on trips, I'm curious as to where the chaperons were when Natalee left the bar with these strange men. It seems to me a bed check at even 2:00 a.m. or 3:00 a.m., could have gained some precious hours in beginning the search for her. KING: Dave? D. HOLLOWAY: Larry, when I came on to the island, I didn't get involved in any areas regarding the chaperons or anything like that. I focused my efforts on the search are and that question would be best answered by Beth, because I don't know. I didn't know any of the chaperons. I didn't know how many were there or anything like that. Those are answers we can get to, you know, after this is over with. KING: Is it puzzling to you, T.J.? WARD: No. I don't know where the chaperons were. I mean, that is a little surprising to say, but I guess to give the kids that just went 12 years of school, just give them a little leeway, to, you know, be by themselves and enjoy themselves and not have to be monitored as they have been for the last 12 years. And you know, it's unfortunate that something like this happened. KING: Susan, what do you think? CANDIOTTI: Well, that's tough. Of course, that's -- all those questions would have to be asked and answered by the people who were there on the trip. Clearly, no one feels good about what happened. And the young people that were there, after this happened, have told our Karl Penhaul that when she left, she appeared to be in OK shape and said that she would be all right. Are people asking themselves questions about what happened that night and what they could have done differently? I'm sure they are. KING: Shreveport, Louisiana, hello. CALLER: Yes, I'd like to know how the families of Natalee Holloway are affording to stay in Aruba waiting on their daughter to be located? And do they have any sort of a fund set up to help financially for this sort of thing? KING: Dave, do you know? D. HOLLOWAY: We do. We've got a couple of funds set up here in Meridian, with Crossmark (ph) bank and then also in Birmingham, (INAUDIBLE) bank. You know, private donations has helped us keep efforts to stay in Aruba and to continue our search. KING: Beth has been there from the get-go, right? D. HOLLOWAY: Yes. KING: She has never left? D. HOLLOWAY: She has never left, no. KING: We'll take a break and come back with more phone calls for Dave Holloway, Robin Holloway, T.J. Ward and Susan Candiotti. Don't go away. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)KING: East Windsor, New Jersey, hello. CALLER: Hi. KING: Hi. CALLER: I'm just curious. I've been watching this from the beginning. And I work in a school. And I'm just curious as to why they've never shown anything about -- they show about Aruba, but they never show anything about where you live, the school, the principal, the chaperons, the friends. They never show anything about the investigation in America, just Aruba. And I'm curious as to why they don't do that. KING: Dave, do you think there should be some aspect investigated in America, that this might have been done by another student, someone other than an Aruban? D. HOLLOWAY: Well, I think the FBI has already looked into that, and interviewed a number of students in the group of students that were with Natalee. And I think they pretty much ruled that out. KING: T.J. Ward, what about this Joran van der Sloot? He's being held. What do you make of that whole aspect, and his father, the judge? WARD: Well, he's being held, because I believe they have some evidence. My understanding under Aruban law, that, at the very most, they've got kidnapping on him, because Aruban law says if you leave an establishment and the party that you're with disappears or whatever, then you're subject to kidnapping. And not only the -- the -- what the ongoing investigation, I'm just surprised right now why he hasn't even been formally charged yet. KING: Dave, how are Natalee's teenage brothers doing? How are the siblings? How is the rest of the family? D. HOLLOWAY: Well, Matt, he's doing fine. In fact, he's been to Aruba two or three times since this incident happened. And he went to church camp a couple of weeks ago. In fact, he is heading -- or he's in -- at his grandmother's house now. The other two girls, our two girls, Caitland (ph) and -- excuse me...R. HOLLOWAY: Brooke (ph).D. HOLLOWAY: Caitland (ph) and Brooke (ph), they've had a tough time with it, just simply from the fact that daddy and mom's gone, and coming back and forth. They tend to watch the door pretty close. And, you know, that's tough on us. KING: Can only imagine. Naperville, Illinois, hello. CALLER: My question is, why don't they get on to that father's property and check his property? And check for the well that's supposedly on there, and just check his property. Why can't they get a search warrant and go on to the father's property? KING: T.J.? WARD: Well, you have to understand what's going on here. As I said from the beginning, there's quite a bit of politics going on here. Paul van der Sloot and van der Straten are very, very good friends, and from the beginning of this investigation, it's been completely hampered. When EquuSearch was here and went over to search on the property, they were instructed what they could search and what they couldn't search. So that's just one thing that goes to show you. You know, just thank goodness right now that the FBI's here, the integrity of the investigation is going to improve 110 percent. And whatever actions that the Aruban law enforcement takes now, they're going to be accountable for, because the FBI's going to be overseeing what transpires in the course of this investigation. KING: Susan, what Americans have to understand is, this ain't the United States. CANDIOTTI: That's right. The FBI has to play by the Arubaans' rules down there, and they have been down there in the role of an observer since almost the beginning. They have been allowed to watch interrogations. But they haven't been able to initiate, according to the rules down there -- and it wouldn't have if the tables were reversed, it couldn't work that way here -- but they haven't been able to initiate searches or go in as searches are being conducted. But there have been searches on that property, I want to make that clear. KING: Isn't it amazing, Dave, that apparently interest on the part of the media has not waned? D. HOLLOWAY: It is. You know, if it hasn't been for the media, I'll say this, Larry, this thing may have been swept right under the table, and we would have been back home making telephone calls every week. I commend the media for sticking with us. KING: T.J., how long are you going to stay there? WARD: Until we find Natalee Holloway. KING: You're not going back? WARD: Oh, I'm going back and forth. Matter of fact, Larry, I'm leaving tomorrow, to go back to Atlanta for about four days. I will be returning on Sunday and staying for another week. I have an associate that will be returning with me sometime within the next 10 days, who's a retired FBI agent out of Miami, and has a very close relationship with the FBI agents here that are in position now. KING: Thank you all very much. We thank Beth and Jug Twitty for being with us earlier. Dave Holloway, Robin Holloway, T.J. Ward and Susan Candiotti.



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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, breaking news. Live to Aruba for the Natalee Holloway disappearance. Two new witnesses come forward, and, with them, the noose tightens on judge's son, Joran van der Sloot. And his two buddies, the Kalpoe brothers, last seen with 18-year-old Natalee the night she disappeared. And we are on high alert here for DNA test results now underway on blonde hair found on thick duct tape found on an Aruban beach. Is this Natalee's hair?
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But first, let's go live to Aruba. Breaking news in the Natalee Holloway missing girl mystery. Two witnesses emerge tonight to hopefully break the deadlock in the case. And tonight, the clock is ticking. DNA results on blonde hair found by a park ranger. The hair attached to duct tape. Is it Natalee's? We are standing by, waiting for results. Natalee, 57 long days gone. And tonight, her family raises the reward for their girl's safe return to $1 million. Tonight, in Aruba, T.J. Ward. He's private Investigator hired to look for Natalee. He's been doing just that, including door-to-door there in Aruba. In Meridian, Mississippi, Natalee's dad and step-mom, Dave and Robin Holloway are with us. In New York, defense attorney David Schwartz; in Atlanta, veteran trial lawyer Penny Douglass Furr; in New York, forensic scientist Dr. Larry Kobilinsky; and with us, psychotherapist Dr. Robi Ludwig. But first, let's go down to CNN correspondent Susan Candiotti. She's been on this case from the get-go. Hello, Susan, bring me up-to-date. A lot happening. SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There is a lot happening. Let's see. Where do we begin? Well, first of all, Police are currently analyzing a sworn statement that they took yesterday from a man who says he -- from a man who was a gardener who works in the area and said that, the night of Natalee's disappearance, he was feeling very hot, didn't have air conditioning at his place, and so he got in his car.And at about 2:30 in the morning as he was driving to someone else's house, he said he practically sideswiped a car that he thinks was the Kalpoe's car in which the Kalpoe brothers were and Joran, as well, that vehicle that was parked near a local racket club. Now he said that he could tell that, inside the car, were those three people, he believes. And he said again that was about 2:30 in the morning. So authorities are now talking to other people to try to verify that statement, verify his whereabouts, and try to learn whether that timeline fits in. Clearly, there are some questions with it. Remember, at about 1:00 in the morning, they left the bar. Then we know that, according to one statement, and the problem is there are different statements here that we're dealing with, but at about 2:30 in the morning, you consider it would take probably about a half-hour from those who were in the know down there to drive from the racket club to get back to, let's say, the Kalpoe brothers home. Why are we mentioning that? Because know that at about 3:00 in morning, according to one of the Kalpoe brothers, they were on the Internet in a chat room at 3:00 in the morning. From what I hear, you'd really have to hightail it to make it there in a half-hour, have time to go in the house, turn on the computer, and go online. But that's one of the many things that are happening. Shall I keep going or do you want me to pause it there? GRACE: Hold on. Hold on. Wait a minute, Susan. Susan Candiotti is with us. Susan, hasn't there been suggestions that the timing device on the computer had been tampered with? So how do we know what time these IM instant messages were really sent? CANDIOTTI: Well, of course, that's one of many questions you to look at. A lot of controversy here, and a lot of people saying different things about different times. But clearly, that's one thing that they would have to delve into. You can't always trust those times, sure. And they could have been jiggered with. And we've got that -- again, the problem with how long it took authorities to question all the people involved in this case as possible suspects. Remember at least, what, a week, a week-and-a-half went by. GRACE: So, OK. Tonight, we've got a gardener that can explain why he was out and about and seeing what was going down that night. Nearly sideswiped, what was it, a silver Honda-type car? CANDIOTTI: Yes, a car that looked like that white, silver, yes. GRACE: And, Susan, did he think he saw three people in there, three males? CANDIOTTI: He said that he had enough time to look in and actually identify those three people he thinks he could identify them as being the Kalpoe brothers, as well as van der Sloot. GRACE: Well, Penny Douglass Furr, I mean, the reality is, the time line is not written in stone. You're talking to a bunch of teenagers who think she left Carlos and Charlies at a certain time. This guy thinks he saw the guys at a certain time, nearly sideswiped them. The only time that could be set in stone is the time on their computer, these three suspects' computers, and even that could be tampered with, Penny.PENNY DOUGLASS FURR, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, you're right, Nancy. However, it's my understanding that, if you get the hard drive, and you have a computer expert, they can tell exactly when those messages were sent, even if they have been tampered with. And I also would check Mr. van der Sloot 's phone. I understand he sent an urgent call to the Kalpoe brothers on that very same night. And I would like to know why he was sending an urgent call to the Kalpoe brothers. GRACE: Of course, T.J. Ward, unless it was all a setup, and all these IM instant messaging, and phone calls, and all that between cell phones was just a cover-up to throw people off the timeline, the true timeline, T.J. T. J. WARD, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Well, it could be. I wouldn't be surprised from what I've seen already. But after we had learned about the information from yesterday, I did some good, old-fashioned detective work and went out to the racket club and the subdivision and started knocking on doors. Ironically, later on this afternoon, I found a girl that -- a husband and who lived in the -- lived in a house just adjacent to where the water and the lake is. And she started telling me about a car that she saw about 6 or 7 weeks ago, which would be after the disappearance of Natalee, a silver car that was in a neighborhood three or four times that night riding around the -- around the racket club and around the neighborhood that are a lot of cul de sacs.And she started describing this car. So I asked her if I could come back and show her some pictures. So I obtained some pictures from the Kalpoe brothers' vehicle, which was -- what was really interesting was the taillights on the car had the clear lenses on the taillights.And when I showed her the vehicle, she said, "That's the car. That's the car that was out here." So the car that I was showing her was the Kalpoe brothers, which was taken from the investigation from the Aruban Police. So, in fact, it may have been they were out there after the fact Natalee was missing, looking around, trying to find something they may have left behind. GRACE: T.J., what were they doing looking out at cars going by? T. J. WARD: I didn't understand your question, Nancy. GRACE: This woman and man that saw the silver car with the same type of lenses on it as the judge's son. Why were they watching cars go by? T. J. WARD: Well, the wife was home by herself that night. And I met the husband today, who took me in to introduce me to the wife. And she had -- there's not that many people living in the subdivision, because it's under construction now. And she had her windows open because she was concerned. And she was watching -- when strange cars would come in the subdivision, she took note of who was there. GRACE: Gotcha.T. J. WARD: And this car was just happened to be noticed when I knocked on her door and brought it to her attention. GRACE: T.J. is literally going -- this is T.J. Ward, a former Atlanta Police officer and detective, now a private eye. He's been hired by the family, is literally going door-to-door to try to find out the whereabouts of Natalee Holloway. You know, Robi Ludwig, now, defense attorneys like Penny Douglass Furr and David Schwartz will attack these people claiming they didn't see what they saw. But the reality is, if you call my mother and daddy right now, they can tell you about strange cars that go back and forth in front of the house. They're convinced they're burglars, and maybe they are, OK? DR. ROBI LUDWIG, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Especially if it's atypical. But we know that, when it comes to memory and eyewitness accounts, it's highly variable. So it's very hard to hang your hat on just eyewitness accounts. And you and I both know that.But these witnesses do sound credible. And perhaps, they were asked the right question that triggered a memory. GRACE: What about it? With me, Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky. But how likely is it that two, now three -- well, two -- two people could be wrong about a car in the same area? DR. LARRY KOBILINSKY, FORENSIC SCIENTIST: Well, that's very important, because, although Robi is perfectly correct...GRACE: Well, have you ever had a car wreck? KOBILINSKY: I certainly have. GRACE: Well, I certainly have, too. Eight, as a matter of fact. And I remember each one very, very well. KOBILINSKY: Yes, yes. GRACE: And if I were hit going straight into another car, I think I would remember what I saw. KOBILINSKY: That's true. Well, there's a negative side too. If one of them claimed that they saw the vehicle, they could have influenced the second one, and then there would be an agreement. So it's still very questionable. GRACE: Wait, what now? KOBILINSKY: I'm saying that, when you have two people that are looking at something and one says, "I've seen this," you know, "this was the car," the second one tends to agree with the first. GRACE: Well, that's if they know about each other's statement. KOBILINSKY: Right. In other words, it's not independent. GRACE: But wait a minute. Wait a minute. David Schwartz, defense attorney, Kobilinsky's right. But the reality is, this gardener has not had contact with the woman living in the racquetball club. DAVID SCHWARTZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I mean, it's incredible, Nancy. The gardener has no credibility whatsoever. 2:30 in the morning, he's going -- almost sideswipes a silver car going how many miles an hour, maybe 30, 40, 50?(CROSSTALK)SCHWARTZ: And then he's able to see inside the dark car, the three people, and they just happen to be the Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot? This is incredible. I mean...(CROSSTALK) SCHWARTZ: They'd better get some better evidence than this...GRACE: Can you look at the camera, David Schwartz...SCHWARTZ: Yes, I'm looking at the camera. GRACE: ... and with a straight face say, any night you've been up at 2:30 in the morning, you have no any credibility? SCHWARTZ: I don't. Yes, personally, I can't tell the color of a car at 2:30 in the morning. And I believe most people can't tell the color of the car at 2:30 in the morning. And they certainly can't see inside the car to see who is in there. It's ridiculous. GRACE: OK, back to Susan Candiotti. SCHWARTZ: I'm sorry. It's ridiculous.GRACE: Susan, before we go to break, tell me again the circumstances under which this gardener says he saw Joran van der Sloot and two others in the car. CANDIOTTI: He says that he was driving at that hour in order to get from his house to someone else's house that had air conditioning he didn't. He said that he was driving and suddenly came upon this car that was parked going nowhere on the side of the road. He claims that he was able to recognize three people inside the car as being the three, he believed to be, the two Kalpoe brother and van der Sloot. GRACE: With me is CNN correspondent Susan Candiotti. When we come back, Natalee's father and stepmother are with us, Dave and Robin Holloway. Please stay with us. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FATHER: With the new investigative team -- I've got T.J. down there. And I know he's going dig. He's going dig into some things that nobody else will give me answers to. I want him to go back from the beginning. I want the statements from the two uniformed officers that were there with me that night that spent two hours with us, at least their written report that they had that night. And I want them to dig into Paulus van der Sloot.And he's involved in this. And I want him to dig and dig and find out more information.(END VIDEO CLIP)(COMMERCIAL BREAK)(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) T. J. WARD: A resident that lives in the racquetball club, approximately six weeks ago, late at night, saw the vehicle in question. She remembers the vehicle because the taillights have clear taillights on it. And I showed her a picture of the car that's in question to be belonging to the Kalpoe brothers -- that was seen during the commission of the crime, or shortly after the commission of the crime, where Natalee was missing. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: Welcome back, everybody. Thank you for being with us. I want to go straight back out to Susan Candiotti, CNN correspondent on the case from the get-go. This private Investigator, T.J. Ward, is literally going from door-to-door and has actually found an alleged witness. Have Police in Aruba gone door-to-door. And if not, why not, Susan? CANDIOTTI: Well, certainly, they're using techniques that every Police organization should be. I don't know specifically what they're doing day by day by day. But obviously, that is something they were doing at one point. But then you also have Investigators who were doing this, too. You have all the volunteers. You had the Holloways who were going door-to- door. So you've got a lot of help there.I can tell you this: The Arubaans are now accepting help, an offer of help, to offer more of a hand from the FBI, and in two separate ways. In one way, a contingent of people from Aruba -- someone from the prosecutor's office, someone from the investigative team -- has actually traveled over the weekend from Aruba to the FBI lab at Quantico, Virginia, armed with copies of materials, copies that include interrogation documents, other evidence, even videotaped depositions and statements from witnesses.And they are going over these now, with the FBI, as the FBI have repeatedly asked to do, quite some time ago. And now they are there in Washington to go over some of these materials with the FBI to ask for their help, to ask for suggestions, to get suggestions from the FBI about possibly what more they could be doing or to offer other suggestions. GRACE: Well, along that same vein, Susan Candiotti, I want to go to Natalee's father now joining us, Dave Holloway, as well as her stepmother, Robin Holloway. Dave, I don't know if you've seen this letter from the prime minister, the minister of justice, in Aruba. Have you seen that letter? It's where they are authorizing the FBI to have -- FBI to have more involvement? DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FATHER: I think I ran across it several days ago. But I'm thrilled that the FBI is now involved. This gives us another set of eyes to look at what's going on. GRACE: Well, Dave Holloway, I'm thrilled, as well. I wish it had been sooner, but better late than never. But, Rosie, could you and Brett (ph) please put up portions of the letter? They didn't even spell Natalee's name correctly. They spelled it Nathalee, "NATHALEE." "We would like to confirm the instructions to you to use all legal means necessary to guarantee the involvement of the FBI in regards to the investigation."I've got it right here. Take a look at this. "Nathalee Ann Holloway, family Holloway." This is from the minister of justice and they can't even spell the name right. Dave, that does not inspire a lot of confidence. D. HOLLOWAY: Well, maybe he needs someone to proofread his letters before he signs them and sends them out. But, you know, mistakes are going to happen. And, you know, I didn't see it myself. In fact, I may have seen it on the Internet or whatever. And I did not notice, as well, so... GRACE: Well, this is the first one I saw. It's from the prime minister, for Pete's sake. And, OK, I'm concerned. What do you think about these two witnesses, the one -- the gardener that has come forward Police, as well as the woman that T.J. Ward found? D. HOLLOWAY: Well, that's great. You know, every time you add something to the scales, it's going to -- you know, it adds up. You know, something is better than nothing. And so far, we've really had nothing. So the more you add to it, the better case you build. GRACE: We're showing you a shot of this racket club, a racket club in which now two witnesses placed Joran van der Sloot's silver Honda-type car, having two people -- no, Ellie, who? Kalpoe brothers' car. Thank you. Thank you.Take a look at this. Now, T.J. Ward, the private Investigator, has gone literally door-to-door speaking with people. Take a listen to this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: We are just doing everything we possibly can in helping to, you know, further this search for Natalee. And we have had a group of friends that have come forward. And they are helping us now to make it possible -- we're going to be able to now raise the reward for the safe return of Natalee from $200,000 to a million. And we're just so hoping that, you know, just any information that someone has or -- they will just feel comfortable to please come forward. (END VIDEO CLIP)GRACE: Tonight, $1 million on the line for the safe return of Natalee Holloway. I want to go back to her dad, Dave Holloway. Dave, that's a lot of money. What prompted you to raise the reward? D. HOLLOWAY: Well, we had an anonymous donor who came forward and helped us raise the reward amount. I'm thrilled. Hopefully, something will come about this, and maybe we'll get some answers and some people really interested. GRACE: You're see some newly released video that we got Friday. That's Natalee right there. Loved, loved, loved to dance, honors student, an American beauty. Very quickly, Dave Holloway, what do you make of these rumors that Natalee has been kidnapped and is in Venezuela? D. HOLLOWAY: Well, you know, we've heard a lot of different rumors. I mean, when we got on the island, you know, we had a lot of information that, you know, she was here or there or whatever. And all those turned out to be false. But, you know, we still hold on to the thread that maybe she is off somewhere. That's my hope. But the Police investigation has always come back and indicated that they're looking into this as a murder case. But as a father and a parent, you still hold on to a possible miracle. GRACE: With us not only Susan Candiotti, CNN correspondent on the case, but Natalee's father and stepmother, as well. Very quickly, to "Trial Tracking." Police on the hunt for convicted sex offender Fernando Aguerro, suspected in the kidnap of 8-year-old Lydia Bethany-Rose Rupp. Aguerro moved into Lydia's Nevada home after meeting her mother at a church function.When Lydia's mother came home from work on Friday, she discovered Lydia, Aguerro, their clothes, the family dog, and all the pictures of 8- year-old Lydia gone. Police have received multiple sightings of Lydia, but still no Lydia, just 8 years old. If you have any information on Lydia Bethany-Rose Rupp, please call 775-463-6620.(COMMERCIAL BREAK)GRACE: The reward for the safe return of Natalee Holloway, $1 million as of tonight. Her mother made that stunning announcement today. Her mother, still in Aruba, searching for her girl. Welcome back, everybody. We are live tonight trying to find out the latest with Susan Candiotti, as well as Natalee's father on the search for Natalee Holloway. Here in the studio with me, Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky. Why so long on the DNA results? KOBILINSKY: Well, this item of evidence could be critical to the case. They're going to be doing a very careful investigation. The hair has to be ground up into a fine powder. DNA has to be extracted. Then it has to be quantified. And then it has to be amplified, and then it has to be sequenced. And the sequencing may have to be done forward and backwards. That takes time. No way could they do this in a couple of days. It takes at least a week, maybe even two weeks. GRACE: Any difference as to whether they have the root or don't have the root of the hair? KOBILINSKY: Well, if they don't have the root, they must do mitochondrial DNA. That's no problem, but it's not as precise as nuclear DNA. If they have the root, they will do nuclear DNA and have a very precise figure. They will be able to say with certainty it's Natalee's or it's not. GRACE: Quick break, everybody. We'll all be right back. Please stay with us.(COMMERCIAL BREAK)(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, NATALEE'S STEPFATHER: There's been rumors out there for many, you know, weeks that we can't find her on the island here, that she's possibly in Venezuela, Curacao, all these places. And hopefully, this will help -- you know, if she's out there, if people have information that they can help us, you know, find her, that they will come forward.(END VIDEO CLIP)GRACE: The reward up to $1 million tonight for the safe return of 18- year-old American beauty and honor student Natalee Holloway.Very quickly, to Susan Candiotti. What can you tell us about motions filed by van der Sloot's attorney over the weekend?CANDIOTTI: Well, here's some interesting moves. Yes, there are, in fact, two motions filed by his lawyer. One of them, he is challenging after the fact the collection of DNA swab taken from his client, Joran van der Sloot.GRACE: On what grounds?CANDIOTTI: Well, on the grounds that it never should have been allowed to begin with. Remember, a judge allowed it to be taken. But the lawyer's arguing in his motion that shouldn't have been permitted and that he's going to get a -- and he wants a hearing, and he's going to get a hearing about that on Wednesday.GRACE: Now, Susan, don't you think the horse is out of the barn on that? I mean, they've already taken the DNA.CANDIOTTI: And they've collected that to use -- to bank it to use to compare it to any evidence that they might collect down the road. Obviously, they're going try to compare it to see whether there was any found on that piece of duct tape along with hair, there might possibly be some other body tissue on that tape, so that they can either make a match or eliminate that piece of duct tape as having any connection to this case, or as I said, if they find something else down the road. That's one motion.GRACE: OK. What was your other news, Susan?CANDIOTTI: Yes, the other motion has to do with whether the FBI should be permitted to have access to these depositions, to the witness statements, to have complete access to all of the evidence already collected by Aruban authorities. And again, his position in this case, the attorney for van der Sloot, is that the FBI has no reason and should not be allowed, according to the laws of Aruba, to be given that access.GRACE: Well, David Schwartz, if your guy is innocent, why does he care if the FBI is in on it? He should welcome them and their state-of- the-art crime lab.SCHWARTZ: Well, I mean, he's got to protect the rights of his client. Now, obviously, the DNA argument, I agree with you, Nancy, that's a complete loser. That's a loser on arrival. At least in the American courts, you know, it's pretty clear that you can collect any DNA evidence you want.GRACE: Well, forget that because in Aruba, everything is bass- ackwards.SCHWARTZ: Yes, and I agree with that...GRACE: That's a legal term.SCHWARTZ: I agree with that, too, Nancy. But you know, the lawyer has to do everything he can to protect his client's rights.GRACE: So my initial question...SCHWARTZ: That's the way the system works.GRACE: ... was, if you would be so kind as to answer...SCHWARTZ: Sure.GRACE: ... veteran defense attorney, David Schwartz, if his guy is so innocent, and he didn't touch Natalee Holloway, then what's the problem with the FBI taking a look at it?SCHWARTZ: Well, you know -- you know, the bottom line is, Nancy, he's not out there saying that his client is innocent. He's there to protect his client.(LAUGHTER)SCHWARTZ: That's the role of the defense attorney.GRACE: OK.SCHWARTZ: The role of the defense attorney is not to determine guilt or innocence, it's protection. That's why we tell our clients, Don't talk. And obviously, van der Sloot 's been doing a lot of talking, so I don't know...GRACE: Yes, well, you know what?SCHWARTZ: ... where that communication has gone wrong.GRACE: Penny Douglas Furr, Schwartz is right about that. van der Sloot has been doing a lot of talking, Penny. In fact, we think that he has changed his story somewhere between 9 and 15 times. Now, as a defense attorney, Penny -- I've seen you in court on homicide cases -- don't you just want to get under the table and hide and hope nobody notices you when the jury finds out your guy has changed his story 1, 5, 15 times?FURR: I hate when my clients talk at all, Nancy. But what keeps jumping out at me in this case is many criminal cases are broken when the criminal returns to the scene of the crime. Why was he not being followed? If this witness is correct and this was his car, why were the Police not following him? Why was he not being watched?GRACE: Oh, Penny, Penny, you're preaching to the choir.T.J. Ward, private Investigator for the Twitty family -- T.J., we have been screaming that from day one -- Impound the car, put a GPS locator on the car. If they had done that, they would have known everywhere these cars went. They let the car sit in the driveway and be driven around for almost two weeks after Natalee went missing. She's right. Why aren't the cops telling these people?T. J. WARD: Well, that's the same thing we go back from the beginning. The things that were supposed to have been done in normal Police work were not done in this case.And I do want to clarify one thing about the witness that -- yesterday that came up, that was found, the gardener -- when he saw the vehicle, the vehicle was parked. And how he identified the parties in the car, van der Sloot tried to cover his face up...(LAUGHTER)T. J. WARD: ... and one of the Kalpoe brothers bent down in the back seat. He had already identified them when he rode by. It's not like he was trying to hit the car or the car was in motion. That car was stopped, and he had a very, very good look at this person that he testified to, from the information we gathered.GRACE: You know, T.J., you're a veteran Investigator. I'm going to have to pull in a shrink on this one.Dr. Robi Ludwig, that just thwarted all of the defense claims that this gardener was probably wrong, didn't see what he saw, because when someone tries to hide from you and you have to look even harder to get a look at them -- there's nothing to make you look harder than somebody hiding.LUDWIG: It's true. And it does sound like there was some foul play, and it does give...GRACE: Ducking down in the back seat!LUDWIG: It does give more credence to his story. However, what we know is that with witnesses, you never can know for sure because we're not tested on our memory. Our memories don't work that way. So it's very hard to know whether he's combining what he saw on the news with what happened that night. Our memories can work that way.GRACE: You know, I knew you'd have that kind of response, too.Dave Holloway -- Dave, what do you think about this gardener's eyewitness account?D. HOLLOWAY: Well, again, something is better than nothing. And if you have a witness, a witness is better than not having one at all. So I think the defense is going to have to discredit him or something in order to show that he was -- that he did not see something.GRACE: Well, and the reality is, Dave, they've got to discredit not one but two eyewitnesses, one that has him there, parked. Now, what are they doing there, parked in the middle of the night in this same area as this racquet club? And then the lady that -- your guy, T.J. Ward found, that saw this car going by not once, not twice, but three times looking at the area. It's just like Penny Douglas said. We have caught so many criminals returning to the scene of the crime. What do they want, Dave? Why are they going back?D. HOLLOWAY: Well, as you may recall, we got onto the island pretty quickly, and that was some of the areas we were moving towards searching. That area is actually about 500 yards from the Marriott, across the -- across a field. And we started our search up near the lighthouse and then was moving back towards the "Holiday Inn." So they may have thought that we were onto something or getting close and, I guess, guarding it, maybe. I don't know.GRACE: Dr. Kobilinsky, I have seen this many, many times in cases that I prosecuted. People always go back to the scene of the crime. It's like they've got a homing device. They go become to where there is evidence, where there is something to be found. Why?KOBILINSKY: That's really hard to say. I guess there's a curiosity about whether they left something there that might be incriminating. It may just be one of these psychological feelings, this urge.LUDWIG: It's almost instinctive.KOBILINSKY: Yes. I think Robi could address that.LUDWIG: Absolutely.GRACE: And very quickly, to Susan Candiotti. Susan, so 500 yards, 500 yards from this spot where the car was parked to the Marriott?CANDIOTTI: More or less. We don't have the precise distance there. But I agree with the detective that, in fact -- and I think we said that the car was parked there, and this man literally drove by it and said he almost hit it, came close enough that he was able to get a look inside.GRACE: And Susan, come on, that makes the eyewitness a lot stronger, that he can recount how one of the guys ducked down in the back seat and the other tried to hide his face.Susan Candiotti has been on this case from the beginning, CNN correspondent. Special thank you to Susan, as always. And also to Dave Holloway, Natalee's father, with us tonight. It means so much to us to hear from you. Thank you, sir.D. HOLLOWAY: Thank you.GRACE: Everybody, again, the reward for Natalee Holloway's safe return up to $1 million, $100,000 for information on Natalee's whereabouts, 877-628-2533. That's toll-free.



On 7-25 the MIAMI, FLORIDA “Miami Herald” reported:

Disappearances have eerie parallels
Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba has some eerie parallels to a writer's disappearance in Jamaica five years ago. Seeking answers, the writer's parents have sued the Sandals resort chain.
BY ERIKA BOLSTAD
The last time anyone remembers seeing Claudia Kirschhoch was five years ago, early in the afternoon, as she was walking on a beach in Negril, Jamaica, wearing her new blue bikini.
The 29-year-old New York travel writer, stuck at a Beaches resort in Jamaica after a reporting trip to the company's new Cuban location was canceled en route, left her wallet, passport and return ticket in her hotel room. And then, she vanished.
Kirschhoch's parents, Fred and Mary Ann Kirschhoch of Morristown, N.J., have filed a lawsuit against the hotel in Miami courts, but still don't know what happened to their daughter; her body hasn't been found and no one has been charged in her May 27, 2000, disappearance.
Now, five years later, Kirschhoch's family follows each new development in another high-profile disappearance in the Caribbean: that of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teenager who went missing on the final day of a graduation trip to Aruba this spring.
The parallels to their own experience are painfully familiar, but riveting, Kirschhoch's parents said. They've been watching the extensive cable television coverage of Holloway's case for anything in Aruba that might trigger a clue to their own daughter's disappearance -- anything that might help fill the five-year void in their own lives.
'I heard Natalee's mother say, `We want our daughter returned,' '' said Kirschhoch's mother, Mary Ann Kirschhoch, 65. ``I knew exactly what she was thinking. Let us have our children back, so that we know where they are.''
SUING SANDALS RESORT
In their quest to learn what happened to their daughter, Kirschhoch's parents sued the Sandals Resort chain, the company that owns the all-inclusive Beaches. The case, filed three years ago in Miami-Dade Circuit Court against the company's U.S. operations, is expected to go to trial this fall.
Filing it required the family to have Kirschhoch declared legally dead by a New Jersey judge in 2002, a difficult step that forced her parents to put in writing what they already knew in their hearts.
''We had to tell him about family background and how close we were as a family,'' said Fred Kirschhoch, 62. ``To go through it was heartbreaking. But we also knew we had to do it to pressure Sandals. The only thing that might hurt them was money.''
Kirschhoch's parents remain convinced that employees at Beaches Negril know what happened to their daughter.
Her parents said they believe the lawsuit is the only way to force hotel employees into a courtroom to answer questions about their daughter's disappearance from a resort owned by one of the wealthiest and most influential people in Jamaica, Gordon ''Butch'' Stewart.
CUBA TRIP CANCELED
Kirschhoch, an editor for Frommer's guidebooks, was supposed to go to Cuba to visit a Sandals-owned resort in 2000, but the trip was canceled because the company was concerned about anti-American sentiment during the Elián González saga. So instead, the company offered a trip to Beaches in Negril, where Kirschhoch and other travel writers waited for a flight home.
While she was in Negril, Kirschhoch made friends with a bartender at the resort, Anthony Grant, who took her to a reggae concert the night before she disappeared. Grant was later interviewed by the FBI, but was never considered a suspect by Jamaican authorities.
The morning after her evening out with Grant, Kirschhoch had breakfast with another travel writer, who had snagged a flight home later that day.
As far as investigators know, after the breakfast with her colleague, the last credible sighting of Kirschhoch was by a lifeguard who may have seen her walking on the beach near the resort around 1 p.m. on May 27, 2000. By June 2, when she hadn't contacted her family after her scheduled date of return and didn't show up for work, Kirschhoch's parents called the hotel in Jamaica. Kirschhoch hadn't slept in her room since May 27, the housekeeping staff reported.
Kirschhoch's parents charge in their lawsuit that important clues were lost in the course of the investigation. Her cellphone disappeared, and the resort developed the film in Kirschhoch's camera, but then told the family that there were no photos on it.
According to the suit, log books showing who entered and exited the resort disappeared for the period that Kirschhoch was there, and security surveillance videos were recorded over.
SECURITY FAILURES
The family's lawsuit against the hotel chain claims that the hotel should have had better security practices, and that its staff was negligent for failing to alert anyone that Kirschhoch was missing for several days -- a holdup that hampered the investigation into her disappearance.
A judge has ruled that when the suit goes to trial, the family is eligible for punitive damages for some of the hotel's failures. That means that if a jury sides with the family, the hotel could take a financial hit for inflicting emotional distress on Kirschhoch's parents and for willfully destroying evidence.
Sandals will not comment on the pending lawsuit, said resort spokesman Michael Hicks.
RESORT DEFENSIVE
Although the family was initially on good terms with the hotel after Kirschhoch's disappearance, that changed after a press conference in Jamaica five years ago when a public relations executive for the hotel tried to paint their daughter as a hedonistic foreigner only in Jamaica for a good time.
Nothing was further from the truth, Kirschhoch's parents said. Their daughter was there to work, and was an invited business guest of the chain.
''That was a telling moment, a moment that we had a revelation that we were in for a problem here,'' Fred Kirschhoch said.
OFFERING SUPPORT
The Kirschhoches have written to the Holloway family to offer support.
''It's there again in the TV and in stories,'' Mary Ann Kirschhoch said. ``You know how difficult it is for that family.''
Holloway's family has struggled to remain hopeful, yet they are also realistic, said the Rev. Steve Parten, Holloway's step-uncle and a family ministries pastor at Sheridan Hills Baptist Church in Hollywood. Parten's sister, Robin, is married to Holloway's father, Dave Holloway.
'Like my little son said the other day, `Mom, when they find Natalee, she's going to be in big trouble,' '' because in his mind he thinks she's just running away and hiding somewhere,'' Parten said.
Critics of the television coverage of Holloway's case argue that thousands of people disappear in the United States every year, and it's unfair to single Holloway out for so much attention.
But it remains relatively uncommon for a woman traveling to simply disappear, especially on a chaperoned trip like Holloway's, or Kirschhoch's supervised media junket.
Worldwide, the U.S. State Department had 2,000 reports of missing Americans overseas last year, said Angela Aggeler, a spokeswoman for the department's Bureau of Consular Affairs.
Most of those are simply people who forgot to check in with their family and friends at home, Aggeler said. College students backpacking in Europe are among the worst offenders, but the State Department follows up on every inquiry.
''There are some cases we follow for years,'' Aggeler said.
The intense media coverage of Holloway's disappearance has reignited interest in Kirschhoch's dormant case. Fred and Mary Ann Kirschhoch have appeared on several national television programs recently, including the O'Reilly Factor on Fox.
Their daughter's disappearance was also discussed on a radio station based in Port St. Lucie, which prompted a call from a man who said he knew something about Kirschhoch, a lead that soon fizzled.
The last major movement in Kirschhoch's case was in 2000, when the FBI sent agents to Jamaica from a Miami-based squad to help Jamaican police investigate Kirschhoch's disappearance. Now, it's just one of those cases that everyone remembers, but it remains unsolvable, said Judy Orihuela, the FBI spokeswoman in Miami.
''It was such a big deal back then,'' Orihuela said. ``I haven't forgotten it, it still sticks.''
FBI CLOSED CASE
The FBI closed its investigation, and no one was charged in Jamaica with a crime. For the most part, Kirschhoch's family found the Jamaican authorities uncooperative and unwilling to follow some of their suggestions. They never were allowed to take a close look at the police file, the family's private investigator, David Betts, said.
''As I've said many, many times, nobody's saying that Claudia was murdered,'' Betts said. ``She died. How that happened is a matter of speculation. Without cooperation from the Jamaican authorities, it's very, very hard to get to the truth.''
SEEKING THE TRUTH
Kirschhoch's parents said they hope their lawsuit will help them arrive at the truth of how their daughter died. At a minimum, it might shed some light on the security practices of all-inclusive Caribbean resorts, the Kirschhoches said.
''She was so inquisitive,'' Mary Ann Kirschhoch said of her daughter. 'She wants answers for us. People say, `Isn't it time to just accept it?' But we can't. Some people may be that way, but that's not Fred or me.''



On 7-25 FOX News reported:

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: The reward is up to $1 million for anyone who can help bring Natalee Holloway (search) home safely. Joining live us in Aruba are Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty (search), and Natalee's stepfather, George "Jug" Twitty (search). Beth, the fact that the reward has now been raised to $1 million, have you started to get more phone calls since that happened earlier today? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MISSING GIRL'S MOTHER: Well, you know, I'm not sure if they have, but I was kind of warned early on that when we began this that the phone calls could peak with this news coming out, so I'm sure they're capable and ready to handle them. VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, have you monitored the calls since the first reward of $200,000 went up about a week ago? GEORGE "JUG" HOLLOWAY, MISSING GIRL'S STEPFATHER: Have I monitored them? I know there are a couple of tips have come in. Actually, there's been several tips that have come in. I don't know that any of them have panned out. But you know, all that all goes through the FBI, through the Aruban police here. So I think if they find out anything, you know, that they really think is good, hard evidence, that they'll come to us, but they haven't yet. VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, the reward is in two parts. One is $1 million for the safe return. For information leading to the whereabouts of Natalee, there's a lesser reward, is that right? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: That's correct. It's $100,000 for her whereabouts. VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, who's in charge of this investigation? Do you know? I mean, I've met so many people down there. People have gone on vacations, retired. We've got the FBI. Who is in charge? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, there's a new lead investigator that's taken over right now. VAN SUSTEREN: And Beth, is he an Aruban or is he Dutch? Is he FBI? Who is he? GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: He's Aruban. He's Aruban. VAN SUSTEREN: Have you spoken to him, Jug? GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: No, he gives me information every day through a liaison that we have, that we've kind of done this for even when Van der Straaten was in there, I'd get a call every day, you know, at 12:00 or 12:30, and they kind of tell me what they've done, you know, during that day or where they're headed, what they're doing. And honestly, Greta, I'm all for it. I think this is awesome. I'm going to try to meet with Eric tomorrow or Wednesday and talk to him. But I think the whole investigation has taken a new life. And if we have to go back and revisit those things that happened the night Beth and I got here, I hope they'll go back and do that because we missed a lot of things there. And you know, I'll forgive whatever they did in the beginning, but let's go back and try to find Natalee. VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, it's interesting. I went on line tonight, and even the Russian newspaper, Pravda, has a story and a picture about Natalee. Do you have the sense that tonight with a new lead investigator that things are really going to change? GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: I do. Absolutely. You know, I got here, Greta, at, like, 3:30 yesterday, and I told Beth, I said, from the minute I stepped on the island and when I started talking to people here, things are happening, all of a sudden. You know, you had the witness come forward, I guess, that Jossy talked about last night. They actually took that guy's statement last Friday. And of course, you know, I actually found out about it yesterday on FOX, I guess. And so, you know but I know there's a lot of things happening. I think this is going to be a big week. VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, Jug mentions Jossy Mansur's interview with the witness. And he's going to be joining us in a second. He's the managing editor for Diario newspaper. Do you know what do you know about this new witness, Beth? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, not anything other than what has already been disclosed. But you know, I know that now they'll probably have to really seek to make this as credible as possible and that there are no holes in his stating of when he saw the boys, and just to know where he was coming from and where he was going. So I'm really excited about someone coming forward and, you know, pursuing this. VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, how do you do brace yourself, though, for the ups and downs? I mean, right now, this looks very positive in terms of the investigation. We're waiting for the forensic on the blond hair on the duct tape. But this has been an up and down since May 30. How do you brace yourself for that? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: You know, I guess it's just coming from all the experience because we have been up and down so many times. I mean, from the moment we arrived on the island, they were just incredible. So I think that we've ridden out so many, Greta, that I'm just really learning now just to, you know, not put any stock in anything until every aspect of it has been thoroughly investigated. You know, just like this witness coming forward, I just want to make sure his story is completely credible and, you know, everything has been investigated and just trying to proceed cautiously. But I am very excited about having someone come forward. VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, how do you brace yourself? Because you've sort of got a couple problems. One, your wife is the mother. You're the stepfather. You're close to Natalee. You've been up and down, racing back and forth to the United States to do your work, trying to burn the candle at both ends. How do you brace yourself for this? GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Well, first of all, fortunately, I work for a company, and I have employees that work for me that you know, they take care of everything. I don't have to worry about that. I'm here to support Beth, you know, and I get up every morning and we kneel at night and say our prayers. And you know, I just support her by saying, you know, Beth, tomorrow's going to be a better day. Something's going to happen. I truly believe, since I've been here, you know, the last 30, whatever, 24 hours, something's getting ready to happen. There's just too much talking going on down here. And I believe the FBI is really getting involved now. And thank goodness to the prime minister. I think he wrote a letter. Maybe he spurred it. I don't know who spurred it, but I can tell by some conversations that we've had today that things are really starting to happen. VAN SUSTEREN: Beth, have you ever met the prosecutor who's now at Quantico, Virginia, at the FBI lab, the one who was sent here on Sunday? Have you ever met her? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: No, I have not, Greta. VAN SUSTEREN: How did you find out? I hope it's not from us in the media, but how did you find out that this prosecutor would be headed to the FBI lab at Quantico? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I did find it out from our attorney, Vinda De Sousa. VAN SUSTEREN: And what is the purpose of this? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, I know that she was going to deliver some evidence, but I think there was probably another part to it. But you know, I'm not exactly clear on that, so I better save that one for her to answer. VAN SUSTEREN: What about the four experts that apparently have arrived from Holland in Aruba? You have two that will be participating in the investigation. You have a behavioral person. I mean, that's a new addition to the investigation, isn't it, Beth? BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh, absolutely, it is. And that is going to be taking place this week. I think there's a lot to digest and get involved in this investigation, and I think they're just going to be very thorough and probably go back to the very beginning, which Jug and I are really hopeful about, that there will be one piece of evidence there that may have been overlooked, and hopefully, we can hang on to it. VAN SUSTEREN: Jug, take me back to the beginning. You met Joran van der Sloot. Tell me again what happened? GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Well, we came to the island. Beth and I were in the hotel. We searched around. We went to Carlos and Charlie's, and everything. Long story short, one of the guys that was with us paid somebody on the beach $100 to find out who this kid was, where he lived. Basically, we went to the police station, got two uniformed officers, which I'm really interested in seeing those names. I've asked for those from the beginning because they were actually with us at least two hours that night because we took them to his house. Then we left there and went to the Windham. Then we came back to his house, and then we left there and came back to the Holiday Inn. And I've asked, you know, every time I get in a meeting with whoever, authorities, that I would like to see those statements from those two policemen. VAN SUSTEREN: Now, when you ask, what happens? I mean, when you ask to see those statements, what answer do you get? GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: All different kinds of answers, but we're working on it. You know, I mean, I just you know, they don't give out things here, like they do in the United States. And that's the part that's so hard for a family because they don't communicate the way would you think that they would communicate in the United States. Beth's done a lot of investigation by herself. That's why I worry, when you know, when I go home, especially when I hear my friend calling me and say, Guess where Beth and Greta are? And I go, Oh, boy. You know, so Beth has done a fantastic job and well, everybody, and all my friends, all my family. You know, we've got tremendous support down here. And everybody's doing something to try to get answers, so... VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Jug, I just followed her there. She didn't follow me, I followed her. GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: OK. VAN SUSTEREN: She's doing an incredible job. GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: OK. I hear you. (LAUGHTER) VAN SUSTEREN: Anyway, she's doing an incredible job. And hopefully, now we are going to have progress on this. Beth, Jug, thank you both very much.



On 7-25 the “AP” reported:

New Witness In Search For American Teen In ArubaARUBA -- Investigators may have a new break in the search for a missing American teen in Aruba. A new witness has come forward with claims that he knows where Natalee Holloway's body is located.The only information being released so far is that those descriptions are very detailed.Meanwhile, attorneys for the three men currently being held as suspects are fighting to keep the FBI from having complete access to their files."Nothing new in respect to my client," said David Kock, who is representing one suspect."If today it's the FBI, tomorrow it will be Colombia or some other country wanting documents. This is a regular case that has been blown out of proportion," he said."If the rules of law are not going to be followed in any proceedings, then their client's right to a fair trial is out the door and they have to protect that," added Aruban legal expert Lincoln Gomez.Aruba's police chief and several officers were in Philadelphia for police training this weekend. "It is a huge case, it's a difficult case, it's a strange case and we need time," said the Aruban chief of police.